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post #1 of 36 Old 01-25-2016, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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Biting and sticky feet

Hi! I new here and need help. I am new to horses, owning, and riding. I got a filly, she is three years old and has an attitude. I know all horses have an attitude, but hers is terrible!
When I walk her on a halter, she will reach out and bite me. I smack on the neck and wait for five seconds before resuming our session. She will continue to bite me, she will not stop no matter how many times I discipline her!

I ride bareback because she is not used to the saddle yet. So when I ride her, I sit up a little more. When I kick her to go, she stays. She doesn't move. If I kick her again, she will turn her head around and bite me. I lift my leg up so she misses, and she nips her stomach.
I need any advice! How do I stop my horse from biting, and how do I get her to go?
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post #2 of 36 Old 01-26-2016, 02:51 AM
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If you are disciplining a horse and the behavior doesn't stop right away, the discipline is not meaningful to the horse. With young and energetic horses, biting can become a game.
Since what you are doing isn't working, you need to use some form of teaching the horse understands to discourage the behavior. If she bites when you are leading, do something like make her back up a few steps, pick up the trot next to you and do some quick turns, or something else that is challenging for her. Essentially your slap on the neck is meaningless to her and then you are letting her rest, which is a reward. So she continues the behavior.

I'd recommend since you are new to horses and also have a young, challenging horse that you either work with someone knowledgeable about horses or at least read a few different books on training young horses before trying to ride or train. Using the expression "kicking" to make your horse move makes me think you will get into a lot of trouble and cause some problems that could be dangerous to you and/or your horse if you attempt to ride and train this horse without any knowledge about where to start. The best thing you could do is get lessons with a trainer who is willing to teach you how to work with your horse.
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post #3 of 36 Old 01-26-2016, 03:46 AM
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How did you end up with such a young horse when you are so new to horses?
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post #4 of 36 Old 01-26-2016, 04:57 AM
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What Gottatrot said.

Obviously, we know nothing about your situation. I hope you have an experienced person to help very closely with this horse, but the fact you asked the above question suggests you are going it alone.

It is not the ideal situation to have a novice rider and a novice horse, and I would like to think you might heed the advice to sell this pony to someone who can bring her on properly and get yourself an older been-there-done-that pony to learn and have fun on.

In reality, I doubt you will so I just hope you never learn the real potential for things to go badly wrong. So I suggest you watch as many training video's you can and endeavour to follow them. Some trainer styles will suit you better than others, you will find that out through trial and error. Warwick Schiller, Clinton Anderson, Jim Anderson and Pat Parelli would be good to start with, but there are lots of others.

You really do need someone knowledgeable to guide you and for your own safety you need to find that person yesterday. (Meaning you can not find them soon enough). No one around you now is suitable, or you would not now have a 3yo pony.
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post #5 of 36 Old 01-26-2016, 05:39 AM
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I also agree you are mismatched.

When you slap her on the neck it means absolutely nothing to her. When she turns to bite you whilst leading you need to be quick with your hand and meet the side of her muzzle with a good open handed slap or carry something sharp like a large nail and ***** her with that when she tries it on.

Much the same when she tries to bite your leg, do not move your leg away but use your toe to give her a good kick on the muzzle.

You really need a trainer.
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post #6 of 36 Old 01-26-2016, 09:55 AM
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What I was taught with horses who bite while leading, is as soon as they come at you with an open mouth, back them up HARD. Make her think her world is going to end. Don't worry, she's not going to hate you forever or anything silly like that. You will have established that you are the leader, and she is not to bite you. I usually see results after three times of doing this.

For the rest of it, get a trainer, or sell your horse and get something more suitable.
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All horses do not have an attitude. But if you have one with issues, improper handling is only going to make matters worse. One thing you will learn on this forum is a green horse and a green owner is not a good combination. It is best to start out with a mature, trained and calm animal. Generally they are more forgiving of your mistakes and are a lot safer to learn with.
As suggested by others, getting some experienced help would be beneficial for both you and your horse. Learning how to handle a horse on the ground and developing riding skills is a good first step. Education is important...otherwise you could be headed for disaster for both of you. Lots of knowledgeable people here with good advice if you will listen.

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I'm sorry, but perhaps you would like to elaborate as to why you are new to horses, riding and horse ownership and now are trying to train a 3 year old filly? What are we missing here? What was the rationale for doing this?

There are lots of wonderful people on this forum who will give you wonderful advice, but it doesn't replace working with a trainer who knows what they're doing. If I were you, I'd get a mature, well-trained horse. Horses are not like puppies - you don't get a baby and raise it. A three year old horse is still very much a baby. I don't mean to be rude, it's just that something about this doesn't add up and we are all trying to figure out what's going on.
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I agree with what has been said.
You are in over your head, with a young horse, still needing work on respect on the ground, never mind trying to ride her, when she has either no idea, or has learned she does not need to yield to pressure, and in fact, thinks she can tell you to 'go to hell', by biting
At the moment , she is allowing you on her back, and just refusing to move. You are at her mercy, and it is not un common for a young horse that balks, to suddenly become un stuck, kicked enough, and explode into bucking, esp if that rider has no idea how to check that head around, nor the horse knows how to give
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What I was taught with horses who bite while leading, is as soon as they come at you with an open mouth, back them up HARD. Make her think her world is going to end. Don't worry, she's not going to hate you forever or anything silly like that. You will have established that you are the leader, and she is not to bite you. I usually see results after three times of doing this.

For the rest of it, get a trainer, or sell your horse and get something more suitable.
No. Moving a horse that is a biter is not the way to correct biting. Horse will bite and then move on its own after a bit, as it has learned that is what it is to do. And eventually you end up with a horse that will jerk you off balance.

And the fact that you have to do this 3 times before you usually see results, is telling you it isn't the method to use.
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