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post #1 of 9 Old 12-14-2015, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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bought first horse age 10

I bought my first horse it is and arabian got it cheap from a friend but the stables people and other horse people dont give me enough time and info about horses they act that they know everything and everything about horses is just expensive .

i need to make some friend here who can tell me all minor major issues like i feel that the horse is a bit weak they told me that it needs an expensive grain diet and some supplements but what grains and what supplements i need to know the difference between bits and bridals how to choose among them. how to train a horse in dressage how long train it for jumping. many many questions looking for non snobish easy frinds from whom i can learn
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Are you 10, or is the horse 10?
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It sounds like you haven't much experience with horses and I can see why the other people at the stables may seem a bit mean but to be honest you will have to learn a lot fast if you're going to keep your horse happy and healthy.

Ask your firend who you bought the horse from for some info to start with..
What grain or supplements was she feeding.. diet needs to be changed gradually over a few weeks.

In UK Bridles are sold by size (pony, cob and full),, there's 3 main types, double bridle (for higher level dressage), standard or bitless. Most people use a standard bridle be they also come with a range of styles, particularly nosebands. Again check what previous owner used.

Bits.. there are hundreds of types, check with previous owner and see how you go with their set up.

You ask how long it takes to train for dressage or showjumping... depends on the horse and the rider's ability.. you are not ready to train your horse for these yet, you would greatly benefit from getting a trainer/instructor to give you lessons on riding and they will also give you advice on how to look after your horse.

Please keep asking questions, you sound as if you've got very little experience and so much to learn if you and your horse are going to safe, happy and healthy. (Horses are expensive.. stable/grazing fees, vet, shoes?, equipement, your riding clothes, hay, grain feeds and vitamins if needed, help with improving your riding and training your horse etc.)
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It sounds like you haven't much experience with horses and I can see why the other people at the stables may seem a bit mean but to be honest you will have to learn a lot fast if you're going to keep your horse happy and healthy.

Ask your firend who you bought the horse from for some info to start with..
What grain or supplements was she feeding.. diet needs to be changed gradually over a few weeks.

In UK Bridles are sold by size (pony, cob and full),, there's 3 main types, double bridle (for higher level dressage), standard or bitless. Most people use a standard bridle be they also come with a range of styles, particularly nosebands. Again check what previous owner used.

Bits.. there are hundreds of types, check with previous owner and see how you go with their set up.

You ask how long it takes to train for dressage or showjumping... depends on the horse and the rider's ability.. you are not ready to train your horse for these yet, you would greatly benefit from getting a trainer/instructor to give you lessons on riding and they will also give you advice on how to look after your horse.

Please keep asking questions, you sound as if you've got very little experience and so much to learn if you and your horse are going to safe, happy and healthy. (Horses are expensive.. stable/grazing fees, vet, shoes?, equipement, your riding clothes, hay, grain feeds and vitamins if needed, help with improving your riding and training your horse etc.)
the horse is 10 and i bought the horse for my son i would like to know that what is the general daily feed if it should gain some weight the previous owner had it in an open paddock just on grass but now my son is planning to compete in jumping competitions and i need to prepare the horse for him with me it cannot jump its on the smaller side it is an arabian but the people around just show off and dont tell me the details i am boarding it at the school where me and my children are ridding for 3 years i am 37 my son 13 nd 10 the trainer is from niger and he learned about horses onthe same school he has some 7 years there and now incharge of the place with more than 25 horses there now but i need to know the details brands of supplements vitamins qty how to give alfalaval and grains how should i prepare him to compete need to follow a schedule need to make an online experinced friend who i can ask yes i know a lot of people here but they all react special and want to show as if it is all done by money that i dont belive in by the way i live in libya and i am an expat all my life i used to love horses but never had the money to ride or own one i remeber as a 15 year old i cried all night for a horse but i never got the chance but i want my son to compete and win i guess alot of people dont take me seriously when i ask them here becasue they think i am now 37 what can i learn at this age but i want to prove them wrong i need to know all the details what is a right weight of a rider compared to a horse height of the horse feet propotion to body i prefer an online buddy as i dont want to look small humiliated that who am i to own a horse its for the rich and privilaged from an early age i think i made my self clear
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the horse is 10 and i bought the horse for my son i would like to know that what is the general daily feed if it should gain some weight the previous owner had it in an open paddock just on grass but now my son is planning to compete in jumping competitions and i need to prepare the horse for him with me it cannot jump its on the smaller side it is an arabian but the people around just show off and dont tell me the details i am boarding it at the school where me and my children are ridding for 3 years i am 37 my son 13 nd 10 the trainer is from niger and he learned about horses onthe same school he has some 7 years there and now incharge of the place with more than 25 horses there now but i need to know the details brands of supplements vitamins qty how to give alfalaval and grains how should i prepare him to compete need to follow a schedule need to make an online experinced friend who i can ask yes i know a lot of people here but they all react special and want to show as if it is all done by money that i dont belive in by the way i live in libya and i am an expat all my life i used to love horses but never had the money to ride or own one i remeber as a 15 year old i cried all night for a horse but i never got the chance but i want my son to compete and win i guess alot of people dont take me seriously when i ask them here becasue they think i am now 37 what can i learn at this age but i want to prove them wrong i need to know all the details what is a right weight of a rider compared to a horse height of the horse feet propotion to body i prefer an online buddy as i dont want to look small humiliated that who am i to own a horse its for the rich and privilaged from an early age i think i made my self clear

Since you have so many questions and need to learn so much about horses and their care, it would be best to go slow and try learning 1 or 2 things at a time. First priority would be nutrition for your horse. Is it at a good weight now, or does it need to gain weight? If at a good weight, find out what the previous owner was feeding and continue that. If no, and horse needs to gain weight, speak to your veterinarian who can give you the best advice on amounts and types of feed and hay.

Also, you do not want to make sudden changes in the horse's diet, different feeds and hay from what it is used to. (Lesson #1) Doing so can cause digestive upsets, colic, etc and you don't want that. If you need to change feed and hay, you do it by adding small amounts per day over a few weeks until you have switched from old feed to new.

I see that you live in Libya? What grains and hays are a available to you there on a regular basis? Can you ask your barn manager what he feeds the horses at the barn? Are they in good health, weight, and condition? Answer these questions and we can start to help you.

Also, please post current pictures of your horse to show what condition it is in, weight wise.
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I recommend this book.. 'The BHS Complete Manual of Stable Management' if you can find it online to buy.. It's quite expensive and based on the English style of riding but has all the essential info you would want. This book is used by instructors, yard owners and riders alike right up to top level both in the UK and Europe.

It covers pretty much everything apart from how to ride and is very detailed on things like nutrition such as how much food your horse needs according to it's size then goes further into hay/grass:grain/hard feed ratios and percentages based on the horses workload and type of work.

It covers things to check in your pasture, posionous plants, saddlery, bits and how they work, rugs, shoeing, watering, grooming, comformation, signs of good and ill health etc.
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I think it's important to remember the people at your barn are doing their own thing. People in general don't have a lot of time so they don't want to spend their time teaching you. Unless you're paying for their time don't expect them to give it to you.

For the most part horses don't need complex diets. At your stage I would just see how much grass and hay your horse is getting and perhaps up that. If you want a supplement just get a pre-mixed feed like horse pellets. You'll probably have different brands there, but they're probably of similar quality. Don't get the cheapest or most expensive just ask the feed store what's good/popular. It needs to be introduced slowly.

Your horse shouldn't need a special diet to compete especially at lower levels. If your horse isn't trained to jump then you should get a trainer, either to give lessons or to take your horse for a period of time. Try and find someone who can be a bit of a mentor with horses. It doesn't sound like your current one is like this.

Weight and size is a complex ration depending on the conformation of the horse and the balance of the rider.
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post #8 of 9 Old 12-16-2015, 11:21 PM
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Hi iayyub!

I have a 10 year old daughter and just bought her an Arabian as well! So I know what it's like to be a horse mom looking for answers. There are SO many questions and SO much to know and yes, sometimes it seems others know it all and you don't know enough. Just take it easy - it will all come eventually. I'm not there yet, but I did have horses when I was young so it's not completely new, but a lot has changed since then so I need to re-learn many things.

I am happy to chat with you about anything at all - feel free to send me a private message anytime. But here are my best answers to your questions:

"I would like to know that what is the general daily feed if it should gain some weight the previous owner had it in an open paddock just on grass but now my son is planning to compete in jumping competitions and I need to prepare the horse for him with me it cannot jump its on the smaller side it is an arabian"

Are you saying the horse will not jump or that you don't think it will be able to jump because of it's size? Our Arabian jumps everything and anything we point him at! And he is only 14.3, but loves to jump. Size isn't a big issue. Is the horse trained to jump? You do need someone who knows how to train both the horse and your son to jump if you don't know how. But you can watch the lessons and then practice on your own. Also, ask the instructor to give your son homework so you can help coach him when the coach isn't there. Or perhaps you feel your horse is underweight? Then you will want to add something more than hay to his diet. Do you have pictures? Some here might be able to tell how your horse's weight is looking.

"how should I prepare him to compete need to follow a schedule need to make an online experinced friend who I can ask" - I can't answer that question from a nutritional standpoint because you haven't provided enough information and I am not an expert in this area. I will say that a horse does not need a lot of feed to be able to compete at a level suitable for a 10 year old. Our Arab is on hay and a very small ration of pellets (like a cup a day) that include several vitamins and minerals. We also give him a glucosamine supplement to help with joint mobility since he is 15. The dosages will all be indicated on the bottles of whatever you choose to feed and add to his diet. Have you taken a measurement of his belly yet? Here, you can buy a tape just for that purpose. You wrap it around him just behind the withers around the girth so you can keep track of any weight changes. I measure our horse every 2-3 weeks. The one most important thing you can do to prepare your horse to compete is to ride him often. Above all, he needs to be fit.

"I used to love horses but never had the money to ride or own one I remeber as a 15 year old I cried all night for a horse but I never got the chance but I want my son to compete and win I guess alot of people don't take me seriously when I ask them here becasue they think I am now 37 what can I learn at this age but I want to prove them wrong" There is a lot of emotion in that sentence. I understand, although I was lucky enough to have horses in my youth, I went about 20 years without them because I was busy with career and babies. You can do this! 37 is young, you can compete yourself if you want to. And you can learn a lot. The horse we bought for my daughter had just won a provincial dressage championship and was being ridden by a 43 year old mom who only started riding 6 years ago! It's never too late.

"I need to know all the details what is a right weight of a rider compared to a horse height of the horse feet propotion to body" Horses are strong, they can carry a pretty heavy rider. But maybe someone else can give you exact specifics. Our Arab is small but carries me around easily (125 lbs), but for jumping, I think my daughter, who weighs about 75 lbs, is more suitable.

"I prefer an online buddy as I don't want to look small humiliated that who am I to own a horse its for the rich and privilaged from an early age I think I made my self clear" Yes. But you do not need to feel this way. You do own a horse and you can be proud of your horse and your son. Who cares what others think?

My recommendation to you as far as getting a lot of information on this site is 1 - read all the posts you can on related topics BEFORE you ask a question (there is a search bar on the top). It's possible someone else has already asked it and it's been answered in great detail. 2 - ask specific questions and spread them out rather than asking all of them in one post. That way, people will be less likely to skip over parts of your posts.

Good luck! and post pictures when you can! Here is my daughter jumping her little arab.
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How long have you/your son been in a lesson program before purchasing this horse? Does your trainer even think this horse is a suitable match for the two of you?

IMHO these are the questions you should have the answers to before thinking about a purchase, and either way you really need a qualified trainer and barn owner involved in this process. We don't know the horse - your vet/BO/trainer should be the one answering these questions.
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