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post #41 of 134 Old 09-28-2015, 07:12 PM
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Assuming the teeth are done or don't need doing...................
I always use the method explained by another member 0 right hand on the crown piece of the bridle lifting it up the centre of the face to pull over the ears and left hand supporting the bit to guide it into the mouth - I find this to be way less intrusive to a nervous horse than all that wrapping of arms around the head
A lot of young horses prefer something like the Happy Mouth shaped mullen mouth bit to a metal one of any sort
Try smearing something like molasses or honey on it to encourage the horse. With a fussy horse like yours I give the horse a small piece of apple first so it doesn't have a 'dry mouth', then another piece of apple when they have the bit in their mouth
They soon start to associate the bit with a pleasant experience and accept the bit happily, you can stop using the treats once that happens
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I talked with my trainer this morning and she said if Im looking for a good dentist to ask the BO. So I talked to the BO tonight and he is great, he spent time to talk to me about his dentist that he uses and how he would recommend a teeth floating done manually vs the power flush that vet clinics use. He even showed me how and where to feel my horses mullers and what to look/feel for. He was going to try to open her mouth but she wasnt having any of it and I told him not to worry about it. Dont want to see a handicapped man get injured.

So he said he will contact his dentist to come out and it might be this weekend! But hes going to shoot for a Saturday. This is great.

He said that even if my horse doesnt need a full floating done, its still a good idea for her to get checked up seeing shes 4.5 years old and hasnt had any dental work done before. He said great idea to do this before winter.

In the meantime, is it okay if I still practice putting her bridle on? I figure it wouldnt hurt. Im not riding her with it on anyways.
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I talked with my trainer this morning and she said if Im looking for a good dentist to ask the BO. So I talked to the BO tonight and he is great, he spent time to talk to me about his dentist that he uses and how he would recommend a teeth floating done manually vs the power flush that vet clinics use. He even showed me how and where to feel my horses mullers and what to look/feel for. He was going to try to open her mouth but she wasnt having any of it and I told him not to worry about it. Dont want to see a handicapped man get injured.

So he said he will contact his dentist to come out and it might be this weekend! But hes going to shoot for a Saturday. This is great.

He said that even if my horse doesnt need a full floating done, its still a good idea for her to get checked up seeing shes 4.5 years old and hasnt had any dental work done before. He said great idea to do this before winter.

In the meantime, is it okay if I still practice putting her bridle on? I figure it wouldnt hurt. Im not riding her with it on anyways.
Well, you need to get her use to having her mouth messed with. One way to get her use to something in her mouth is use your lead rope. Insert your thumb in the gap between her teeth and get her use to opening her mouth. With her mouth open slip is the lead role in as you would the bit.

This way you get use to handling her mouth while not banging a bit against her teeth.
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I talked with my trainer this morning and she said if Im looking for a good dentist to ask the BO. So I talked to the BO tonight and he is great, he spent time to talk to me about his dentist that he uses and how he would recommend a teeth floating done manually vs the power flush that vet clinics use. He even showed me how and where to feel my horses mullers and what to look/feel for. He was going to try to open her mouth but she wasnt having any of it and I told him not to worry about it. Dont want to see a handicapped man get injured.

So he said he will contact his dentist to come out and it might be this weekend! But hes going to shoot for a Saturday. This is great.

He said that even if my horse doesnt need a full floating done, its still a good idea for her to get checked up seeing shes 4.5 years old and hasnt had any dental work done before. He said great idea to do this before winter.

In the meantime, is it okay if I still practice putting her bridle on? I figure it wouldnt hurt. Im not riding her with it on anyways.
Yep, I agree with your BO. It's very easy to grind off too much tooth with the power tools (I've seen it done so much). I hand rasp, when I float teeth. It's a lot more work physically, but it's also more fool-proof.


I think it's probably fine to continue practicing putting the bridle on. I can't really see how it would hurt anything.
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and how he would recommend a teeth floating done manually vs the power flush that vet clinics use.
I'm of the opposite mindset. I personally would never use a dentist that doesn't use power. Teeth are a hard structure and someone who is skilled (key word, I suppose) can do a power float quickly and correctly.

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Since there are times when using power tools are essential to do the job properly I also want to use someone who has them - and since they're noisy and the vibration can upset a lot of horses you also need someone who's legally qualified to sedate the horse
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The equine dentists I've had were able to float the teeth quickly, without power tools and without sedation. Maybe my horses just had good teeth to start with. None are very old.
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Sedation depends entirely on the horse - they don't all need it
The older the horse the more likely it is to need a power float - though even some horses can have problem teeth that requite it
From my own experiences over many years a lot of vets and equine dentists don't do the job very well at all and many don't even use a gag and 'head torch' which is really the only way to get a good look and feel of the mouth and teeth at the very back
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Step 1: Don't overthink it too much. Many horses with bridling issues have simply learned that their rider/handler doesn't know how to bridle properly and have found loopholes to get out of it. You are a beginner and I suspect this is the case. I see too many people think to themselves, "Oh my horse has a bridling issue, it must hate bits!" or, "My horse was abused in the past so bridling is hard now". Most of the time this is a handler error.

Step 2. Re-educate yourself on proper bridling techniques. If you cannot put a bridle on your horse because he/she is avoiding your hands, then you are leaving a hole open somewhere that your horse has learned to exploit. Horse raising its head up? Your fault. Ducking away? Your fault.

Step 3. Have confidence. Horses feed off your energy. When you have an aura about you that says, "This is what we are doing, and we are doing it now", horses have a natural tendency to follow. They can pick out weakness more easily than you or I can and actively seek out a confident leader.

Step 4. Success.

My suggestion to re-teach your horse that you know what you're doing:
- first, know what you are doing
- put on a rope halter
- attempt to bridle the horse (with confidence) with the halter on underneath; this will give you an advantage over your horse when learning to bridle. Stand beside the horse's neck, behind the throat and in front of the shoulder. Where you stand is important in your success.
- IMPORTANT: if the horse does anything naughty at all/tries to evade the bit, grab the halter on the cheekpiece and pull the horse's head TOWARDS you as if you want the horse's nose to touch her left shoulder. YOU do not move. Try again. Rinse and repeat. Take no sass.

If you can't get a visual for what I mean about pulling her head towards you, this is what I mean. Just bring her head around:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AQo8Ui7xn1g/hqdefault.jpg

...But obviously you will be standing beside her neck, not hugging her. Ignore the human in that photo.

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Very well said WillowNightwind.
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