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post #1 of 10 Old 05-20-2019, 05:26 AM Thread Starter
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hi everyone...
my loans just started bucking, very small bucks into canter but its out of character for her...
i dont think its saddle although we just got a new one as the first buck was bareback... but shes done the same thing under saddle now too...
its possible my seats no where near as good (well ok) as i thought and i might have made her sore, however shes a chub and im fairly lightweight.

so how would you know if your horse is sore, and if not, what do you do when a horse bucks- to prevent it from becoming a habit (though knowing her, now shes done it once its going to stick around for a couple of months lol)

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There are several reasons why a horse would buck. Pain (or discomfort) and training are the most common.

If her first buck was bareback, then start there. Some horses just don't really like to be ridden bareback, as it is uncomfortable for them - the best or the lightest rider doesn't change that for some sensitive horses.

I would still double-check the fit of your new saddle just in case.

Is bucking at the canter what is "out of character" or just bucking in general? How are you asking for the canter? Horses that are poorly/incorrectly set up to transition into the canter may buck; my horse bucks if I don't set her up correctly. If it is that case, I wouldn't correct her; give her a second chance. Try asking again by setting her up and give good, clear direction. Does she buck then?

What happened after her first buck? What did you do? What do you do when she bucks? Know your horse. You said that she is the type of horse that tends to try to take advantage of you. If you do nothing or fall off and simply get back on, she learns that bucking has no consequence. Even if the original bucks were cause by pain, discomfort, or confusion, some horses do transfer over that behavior even when they feel fine or aren't confused; horses do what works.

How often does she buck?

As for testing if she is sore, sometimes it's hard to tell. Gently palpate her back. If a horse is sore, they'll usually stiff up or raise/toss their head. If it's "not that bad" or if the horse is particularly stoic, that horse will not have such large clues. Some horses will simply give "that look" - you can see it in their eyes and you just know it's not comfortable for them. If you are unsure, you could ask a vet or a chiropractor to help you.
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If she didn't buck before, when you went into a canter, but since you got the new saddle she does, then the obvious first choice is to get the saddle fit evaluated.



palpate her back to see if she 'winces'. post photos here of the saddle on her bare back, for a look see on the fit, (though this won't be nearly as accurate as having a knowledgeable saddle person look at it)
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I also palpate the back to check for back soreness. If yes, then start looking for what's causing soreness. If not, look for soreness in other areas, bucking makes me think stifles, hocks...
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There are several reasons why a horse would buck. Pain (or discomfort) and training are the most common.

If her first buck was bareback, then start there. Some horses just don't really like to be ridden bareback, as it is uncomfortable for them - the best or the lightest rider doesn't change that for some sensitive horses.

I would still double-check the fit of your new saddle just in case.

Is bucking at the canter what is "out of character" or just bucking in general? How are you asking for the canter? Horses that are poorly/incorrectly set up to transition into the canter may buck; my horse bucks if I don't set her up correctly. If it is that case, I wouldn't correct her; give her a second chance. Try asking again by setting her up and give good, clear direction. Does she buck then?

What happened after her first buck? What did you do? What do you do when she bucks? Know your horse. You said that she is the type of horse that tends to try to take advantage of you. If you do nothing or fall off and simply get back on, she learns that bucking has no consequence. Even if the original bucks were cause by pain, discomfort, or confusion, some horses do transfer over that behavior even when they feel fine or aren't confused; horses do what works.

How often does she buck?

As for testing if she is sore, sometimes it's hard to tell. Gently palpate her back. If a horse is sore, they'll usually stiff up or raise/toss their head. If it's "not that bad" or if the horse is particularly stoic, that horse will not have such large clues. Some horses will simply give "that look" - you can see it in their eyes and you just know it's not comfortable for them. If you are unsure, you could ask a vet or a chiropractor to help you.

i posted this the same day it happened, it was the first time shes bucked with me (ridden her for at least a year and a half) and in general she doesn't seem like the type, i doubt its happened many times...
the first time she bucked i was all for putting it down to rider error (asked for the wrong lead and was off balance) but she did the same thing with her owner- who would not do the same.

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If she didn't buck before, when you went into a canter, but since you got the new saddle she does, then the obvious first choice is to get the saddle fit evaluated.



palpate her back to see if she 'winces'. post photos here of the saddle on her bare back, for a look see on the fit, (though this won't be nearly as accurate as having a knowledgeable saddle person look at it)
the saddle fits- i dont think there is anything wrong with it as the first buck was before she had ever been ridden in it, ill check for soreness definatly

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I also palpate the back to check for back soreness. If yes, then start looking for what's causing soreness. If not, look for soreness in other areas, bucking makes me think stifles, hocks...
maybe hocks, im not really sure how to check though?

anyway, im going up tommorow, hopefully she wont buck again but if she does ill post (and hopefully get a video)
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Was anything else different that day? If it was the first time she bucked and she hasn't bucked since, she could have been feeling good and got a little excited and bucked.

How often do you ride bareback? If you don't ride bareback a lot, she could have been able to tell if you weren't as "secure" (both mentally and physically). She could have a little sense of humor and just been testing to see whether or not she is able to buck you off.
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Was anything else different that day? If it was the first time she bucked and she hasn't bucked since, she could have been feeling good and got a little excited and bucked.

How often do you ride bareback? If you don't ride bareback a lot, she could have been able to tell if you weren't as "secure" (both mentally and physically). She could have a little sense of humor and just been testing to see whether or not she is able to buck you off.
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Was anything else different that day? If it was the first time she bucked and she hasn't bucked since, she could have been feeling good and got a little excited and bucked.

How often do you ride bareback? If you don't ride bareback a lot, she could have been able to tell if you weren't as "secure" (both mentally and physically). She could have a little sense of humor and just been testing to see whether or not she is able to buck you off.
haha shes definatly one to do that! i know im not the most secure rider, but again shes not a sensitive horse- i practically learnt to ride on her as my position was honestly pretty horrifying when i started loaning... however she was fighting me a little more than normal now you mention it... didnt want to go round the outside and kept coming off the track, pretty strong, and cantering to the diagonal corner from where we cantered- another new one for her...
i definatly think this is just her taking advantage of the fact im not as balanced, but buckings on a whole new leve to her normal cheekiness...

oh and i also realised it was alot earlier than i nnormally ride! and she is stiff in the mornings so could be pain in her hocks- however that doesnt explain why she did the same thing with her owner...

i hope she was feeling good, shes been such a sweetheart atm i would feel horrible if she was sore, but ive never even seen her buck when shes turned out, shes more of a roller lol
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no bucks today! a couple of canter transitions with extra sass though.... checked her all around for soreness and she didnt react at all, so im pretty sure shes fine... did have one very odd canter where she decided to start cantering slightly sideways though, honestly have no clue what to make of that lol, just took a bit of leg and she straightened out...

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No bucks today? That's good. I don't mean to jinx it, but perhaps she was just having an off (yester)day?

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No bucks today? That's good. I don't mean to jinx it, but perhaps she was just having an off (yester)day?
yeah me too, i actually think they were happy bucks as i spoke to her owner again who said that she was really excited to be ridden in a saddle, i freaked out a little as its so out of character but shes always been an odd ball XD

now i just have to get used to this saddle- she seems to like it but it feels like ive gone from the saddle equivalent of a sofa to a bar stool lol
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