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post #1 of 14 Old 06-15-2014, 06:42 PM Thread Starter
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Building our farm...QUESTIONS!

We are going to start building our horse barn next summer and our property is on 12 acres of land and a few of those acres are going to be used for pasture. They only thing is, we don't have grass there yet...we have an assortment of hay growing on the entire property. Would that be a problem? Do we have to tear up the ground and plant grass or would they be fine living on a hay field? I'm not sure what kind of hay (my dad rents our land to a man who grows hay for his cattle), and neither does my dad...though I'm sure he would tell us if we asked. I know my horse gets unlimited hay so my first reaction is that it would be fine...but the other part of me is second guessing myself, because I honestly have no idea. I board, and the barn takes care of my horse so I have A LOT of research to do.

Also which fencing do you like best? Standard wood panel fencing, electric, wire ect. At the barn I board at now, they use electric and I love it...but I would assume it is pretty costly.

We plan on building an indoor arena as well. I do nothing more than pleasure ride...occasionally jump, trot barrels, poles ect just for fun. What size arena would be adequate?

I'm sure I will have a ton more questions pop up so I will be updating this thread often. If you have any advice about anything at all barn/farm related that you think would help me out, please share :)
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On the fencing question, I hate hot wire with a passion. So many things make it stop working. I mean anything makes it stop working, it gets really frustrating. I would really suggest wooden fences if you can afford them they are expensive but worth it in the long run, in my opinion. There are also other types of fences that could be used like wire, rubber, tape, it all depends on what you are looking to spend. Good luck :)

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About the hay....if it isn't alfalfa or clover or some such, hay is just...grass.
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post #4 of 14 Old 06-15-2014, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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About the hay....if it isn't alfalfa or clover or some such, hay is just...grass.
I think its a mixture or hays not just grass, I should have made that clearer...it is fed to his meat cattle so I'm guessing it isn't just grass hay lol. He has to make his cattle heavy in a short period of time so I'm assuming it is something other than just grass hay. Sorry for not making that more clear.
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On the fencing question, I hate hot wire with a passion. So many things make it stop working. I mean anything makes it stop working, it gets really frustrating. I would really suggest wooden fences if you can afford them they are expensive but worth it in the long run, in my opinion. There are also other types of fences that could be used like wire, rubber, tape, it all depends on what you are looking to spend. Good luck :)
I see what you are saying about the electric. We had it go out in a couple places and a few sneaky horses went under the wire into their grass pasture (they are in dry lot half the day, grass other half). So that could be annoying to deal with all the time. I really like the look of wood, and I'm sure my dad would invest in it if it would last better in the long run.
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Yea, if your dad will help pay, I would definitely go for wooden fences.
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If money is not an issue wooden fences are great, but very pricey. I've always found electric wire fencing works fine.

Hay is generally just dried grass, unless it's specifically something else. Have a look what you have and search up what variety it is. Although, I always considered hay to just be a dry and convenient version of grass for when you don't have any. I wouldn't see a problem with a horse eating it fresh... but I guess some things, like lucerne/alfalfa, may not be good in such a large quantity.

As far as arenas go... the bigger the better I say. It all comes down to what you can afford, and indoors are extremely pricey. I'd find out your price limit and then see what you can get for that, and if it will be adequate.
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Hay, as said most hay is just a type of grass. Fescue, coastal, orchard grass. It is all types of grass that is just let grow. Then cut , dried and bales.

Fence. I'm redoing our fence with ramm wire fence. It is 12.5 gauge high tensile fence coated in a rubber. Looks really nice and a roll of 1330 ft is about 160 bucks. I did 5 strand with wood posts. Ends and corners are H braces and concreted in. Well see how it looks in a few years but now I really like it.

Arena. An indoor arena sounds like more than you need and with it being a " building" it may bump your taxes up a good bit. Just something to think of.
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post #9 of 14 Old 06-16-2014, 12:10 AM
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If he's feeding beef cattle it is probably alfalfa. YOU DO NOT WANT TO LET YOUR HORSE OUT ON AN ALFALFA FIELD! Not yelling at you just stressing that fact. Green alfalfa will founder your horse in no time along with it being a colic risk.

We have electrified high tensile wire fences. They will occasionally ground out due to a limb falling on it or the deer jumping through and pulling it off the insulators but it still requires less maintenance than a wood rail fence that needs painted every year or two. You'll hear horror stories about horses getting their legs cut up in high tensile but every person I know that has had that happen to their horses is because they either don't have it electrified at all or they only make the top wire hot. All of our strands are hot except the bottom one and we don't have a problem with them trying to walk through it.

I agree with Fort Fireman about the indoor arena. Unless you're going to show and need to keep your horse in training year round an indoor would not be worth the cost. It isn't cheap to build one, and then on top of that you have the increase in property taxes, insurance, and maintenance. About whatever footing you use you need a sprinkler system to cut the dust, a tractor with a drag on it to keep the surface level and then adding additional sand, sawdust, or whatever every so often. Not worth it for the occasional times you actually need it instead of an outdoor arena.
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post #10 of 14 Old 06-16-2014, 01:14 AM
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Instead of an indoor consider a covered arena/riding area
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