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post #11 of 25 Old 11-14-2015, 08:45 AM
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I generally don't get a ppe either, but I rarely buy a horse that is over 3 years old and never one that has already been trained by someone else.

Whenever I sell one, I don't tell buyers that they should get one......but I would never dream of saying "nope, you don't need one". For the right buyer, I would happily haul to a vet of their choice for a thorough ppe.
smrobs - it sounds like you are very knowledgeable and therefore would know what signs to look for when buying a horse. Most people are not (certainly not me!) and therefore should be encouraged to have someone more knowledgeable (preferably a vet) do a basic soundness exam regardless of the age or the cost of the horse IMHO.
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post #12 of 25 Old 11-14-2015, 02:40 PM
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That's a vet you should keep lol.
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post #13 of 25 Old 11-14-2015, 02:55 PM
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I bought very few horses over the years, but sold many, having raised them
I always encouraged buyers to get a PPE, as I was not a horse flipper, someone trying to make a one time sale on a horse they no longer wanted, but a breeder, whose reputation relies on happy customers.
There is also the fact,a s a breeder, I had a bottom line as to what a horse was worth, after looking after the broodmare well, that foal, raising it until it was three and started under saddle
Yup, people can look for bargain horses at local auctions, at someone who just wants to sell one horse they no longer need, willing to sell that horse cheap, and sometimes those buyers got lucky , but often the fact remains, you get what you pay for , and by buying from those whose reputation is linked to the horses they raise
Sorry, but felt I had to add this other aspect, which is directly related to the many posts on bad horse buying experiences.
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I was on the verge of purchasing the most lovely tempered horse, when the trainer I was working with said I should get a vet check. The owner said it wasn't necessary, as it wasn't an expensive horse, and I almost didn't bother - but a couple hundred dollars later, turns out the horse is almost entirely lame in one leg and about ten years older than it is advertised as being! The vet literally told me 'run, don't walk away from this horse, it's going to break down entirely in 4-6 months'.

Worst part is, seller has gone into complete denial! She is now saying vets are silly and she intends to sell the horse regardless to one of the other interested parties (I am betting without mentioning the results of this vet check.)

The seller seemed very nice and super honest up until this point, so someone is about to be charmed into buying a geriatric horse with about 6 months of use left in it, under the guise of a solid animal in its mid-teens.

Just thought I'd share this story, for anyone who was considering skipping the vet check. Even the most trustworthy seeming seller can be in huge denial about what they're selling.
Seems like a almost entirely lame horse in 1 leg and 10 years older would have been obvious before the vet check.
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Yeah I was sort of wondering if it was her regular vet wouldn't he know the horse beforehand and could just flat out tell you "yeah she's lying on his age"?
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Yeah I was sort of wondering if it was her regular vet wouldn't he know the horse beforehand and could just flat out tell you "yeah she's lying on his age"?
when getting a vet check it is preferred not to use their vet so they don't lie for seller.
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Seems like a almost entirely lame horse in 1 leg and 10 years older would have been obvious before the vet check.
Ah, but that is why this thread is on "New to Horses" rather than "Horse Talk".
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post #18 of 25 Old 11-14-2015, 08:07 PM
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Yeah I was sort of wondering if it was her regular vet wouldn't he know the horse beforehand and could just flat out tell you "yeah she's lying on his age"?
Not necessarily. Unless something catastrophic happens, my horses rarely, if ever, see the vet. I give all my own shots and most never leave my property. I have coggins pulled on 3-4 of them a year and that's it. My vet knows me very well, but expecting him to remember the age of a horse he MIGHT see once a year is a little silly.
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Seems like a almost entirely lame horse in 1 leg and 10 years older would have been obvious before the vet check.
Nope. Failed the flexion test. Vet said it was 4/5 lame, likely to break down inside 6 months. It wasn't visibly limping around the paddock until after the flexion tests were performed.

As for age, vet said the teeth did not reflect its stated age. The horse itself appeared to be in fairly good condition, and was very forward. It wasn't 'obvious' to anyone, including the vet, who has 30 years experience, until he performed the check.

This is the whole point of vet checks. A horse on its way to breaking down might not be obvious under a light ride. And not every horse ages the same externally.

Just because you think something should be obvious, doesn't mean it is.
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Not necessarily. Unless something catastrophic happens, my horses rarely, if ever, see the vet. I give all my own shots and most never leave my property. I have coggins pulled on 3-4 of them a year and that's it. My vet knows me very well, but expecting him to remember the age of a horse he MIGHT see once a year is a little silly.
Exactly. The vet was the regular vet for the place the horse was staying at, and he came highly recommended, but he'd only seen the horse once before and that was for something completely unrelated almost 18 months earlier.
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