Can someone tell me if this is a Foundation QH or quality of bloodline? - The Horse Forum
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post #1 of 41 Old 07-28-2015, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
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Can someone tell me if this is a Foundation QH or quality of bloodline?

I suspect, based on the little I know about QHs, that this bloodline is very good (Doc Bar, etc.) Can anyone out there confirm this for me?

Also I'd love to know if this horse is what one would consider a foundation QH.

Thanks in advance for helping this newbie to QHs!


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there are a lot of old lines in there, go to the Foundation Quarter horse registry and it will explain how to figure the percentage .
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I'm going to add this horse too to my original question. I'd love to know if this horse would be considered from a good lineage and also whether she's a Foundation QH. (I'll check out that site already mentioned, but if someone knows just from seeing the names, I'd love to hear about it!)

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Oh my that thing is complicated!!!
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With Three Bars in there, I am not sure if the horse is considered "Foundation" since Three Bars was a Thoroughbred.
There are some really great QHs in that lineage (and I know almost nothing about them but recognize some famous names!).
Found this story of Three Bars on this FQHR breeder's site, but it lists him as being in the AQHA Hall of Fame . . . not as a FQH.
Three Bars Quarter Horse Legend
Oh . . . and I think this will answer your question. I got curious.
What makes a FOUNDATION QH?:
Westphalia Ranch - What is a Foundation Quarter Horse?
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Both those horses are bred up the wazoo! The first is double-bred Doc Bar, who does go back to Three Bars. But he is so far back in the lines that I doubt it will have much impact on the foundation percentages.

Different foundation registries have different stringencies for the amount of thoroughbred blood allowed. And there is more than one way to calculate, too, I think.

Once upon a time I had read that a VAST majority of QH in the US will carry a minimum of 70-80% pure QH bloodlines, the rest being TB, or Paint, or Appy, etc. So the registries that require only a 75-80% "purity" are not really accomplishing anything, IMO. I had set a minimum of 90% in my own mind before I calculated percentages for a mare and colt I owned, each calculated out to 96% and 93% respectively.

So unless you are wishing to register in a foundation registry or show for points with that registry I would think that either of those horses is likely a high-quality option for you. Would love to see pics! *drool*
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Funny, if only moderately related story:

ecasey, your question got me to thinking about my Appendix registered gelding, and wondering about Appendix vs. foundation and the technicalities of foaling years, etc., and did some fascinating research on my boy (62.75% QH, btw, not that it matters a whit).

The most interesting (???) thing was to have a duh! moment and realize his maternal grandmother was bred to her father to produce my boy's mother. ICK! That maybe explains a lot about him.
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Someone needs to make some sort of app where you just plug in the name of the horse and BAM, answer appears. I'd pay for that thing. :)
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The younger one is a gorgeous golden champagne color. I'm going to visit her next week, so I'll post pics then! The older one is a bay. Not sure if I'll see her; depends on how I feel about the younger one.

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It is hot and I have no one to cook for tonight and just want to sit here at the computer, so I will take a crack at guesstimating percentages for those horses. I make no guarantee for accuracy, though. I understand the mechanics of calculating but my math skills reek, lol!

Lemme go get some tea...and swap the laundry. Might as well pretend I am also being productive.
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