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post #11 of 23 Old 10-29-2016, 12:11 PM
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Interesting note....here on the ALL (99%) of the working horses and ponies are intact stallions. To get the picture I live on a 2 x 4 km island and there are about 230 horses/ponies here. 8 are mares, 4 are geldings, the rest intact stallions. They run together, play together, stall together etc no problems....until one of the mares walks up in season .
When I moved here I was shocked at all the stallions but the locals do not believe female horses should work (for the most part although you do see occasional mares working), and do not believe in castration....

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As Tinyliny already said - by all means start a thread but if its going to be of real use as an 'informative' thread worthy of a sticky then its got to stay on track and not go off into long rambling stories of member's experiences - good or bad - short examples based on personal experience of how things can go wrong/why they went wrong are OK I think
Keep if as factual as possible I suppose

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Okay, I would like to start a new thread called Why You Should Not Consider Owning a Stallion
And we'll see if it turns out to be sticky-worthy. But where should it go? In the New To Horses sub forum?

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post #14 of 23 Old 10-29-2016, 02:07 PM
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Or alternatively, Stallions: What You Should Know

telling people not to consider them sounds kinda pushy, I think it should be focused on educating more then on lecturing people that have or want stallions
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post #15 of 23 Old 10-29-2016, 03:17 PM
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Or alternatively, Stallions: What You Should Know

telling people not to consider them sounds kinda pushy, I think it should be focused on educating more then on lecturing people that have or want stallions
See, I knew I needed an editor.

How about if people offer suggestions on this thread and someone, even myself possibly, consolidates them and makes a sticky?

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post #16 of 23 Old 10-29-2016, 04:11 PM
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Interesting note....here on the ALL (99%) of the working horses and ponies are intact stallions. To get the picture I live on a 2 x 4 km island and there are about 230 horses/ponies here. 8 are mares, 4 are geldings, the rest intact stallions. They run together, play together, stall together etc no problems....until one of the mares walks up in season .
When I moved here I was shocked at all the stallions but the locals do not believe female horses should work (for the most part although you do see occasional mares working), and do not believe in castration....
That is so interesting! I wonder if having a bunch of stallions together mellows them out some as none are "big man"? The stallions I've met were the only ones in the barn, or maybe 1 of 2. Also, these stallions all work hard, right? I think any horse being used daily for hard work will be better behaved than some of our pampered pasture/stall babies that only work an hour or two a few days a week.
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It is possible to keep stallions together and stallions with geldings (as in occupying the same field) - the complications arise when you have a mare anywhere in their vicinity or not enough space for them to get away from one that does decide to be assertive - there is always a pecking order in all things and stallions are very testosterone fuelled and if you've ever seen any of the videos of stallions fighting it's a big risk if they're worth anything

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See, I knew I needed an editor.

How about if people offer suggestions on this thread and someone, even myself possibly, consolidates them and makes a sticky?
You can start a thread wherever you like - we (Mods) can always move it somewhere more appropriate if that seems called for
We can also change the title name
If you use anything in this thread in the new one please give credit to the member who posted it.
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Well, I doodled with a flow chart last night. Would like feedback on it.
it went something like this:

HOW TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU SHOULD KEEP A STALLION

1.I am experienced with keeping, handling, and breeding stallions
YES (continue) NO -------------------> GELD


2. The horse I am considering is an exemplar of his breed, superior in almost every way
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


3. I have the experience, time, and money to train and compete with this horse at a high level, to prove his breeding value
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


4. I either already have or have the money/expertise to build the separate extra-strong quarters stallions need to be kept safely
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


5. This stallion will be kept in a private stable, not in a mixed sexes training or boarding barn
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


6. I understand and accept that this stallion will always be an extra liability (and will need extra insurance), will require extra vigilance his whole lifetime, and may often not be welcome on many group activities like trail rides
NO--------------------> GELD
YES---------> KEEP AS A STALLION

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Well, I doodled with a flow chart last night. Would like feedback on it.
it went something like this:

HOW TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU SHOULD KEEP A STALLION

1.I am experienced with keeping, handling, and breeding stallions
YES (continue) NO -------------------> GELD


2. The horse I am considering is an exemplar of his breed, superior in almost every way
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


3. I have the experience, time, and money to train and compete with this horse at a high level, to prove his breeding value
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


4. I either already have or have the money/expertise to build the separate extra-strong quarters stallions need to be kept safely
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


5. This stallion will be kept in a private stable, not in a mixed sexes training or boarding barn
YES (continue) NO--------------------> GELD


6. I understand and accept that this stallion will always be an extra liability (and will need extra insurance), will require extra vigilance his whole lifetime, and may often not be welcome on many group activities like trail rides
NO--------------------> GELD
YES---------> KEEP AS A STALLION
I like it except for #3. I would change that to :

I have the experience and time to train a stallion to become a well mannered equine citizen.

My reasoning for this is that I don't believe every stallion that is successful in his discipline passes his talent on to his progeny. Nor that every stallion that never had a discipline couldn't be successful in the breeding barn.

Then you add a #7 that covers getting gelded if his offspring don't prove his worthiness.
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