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post #21 of 23 Old 03-13-2016, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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Bumping this up because I cannot get this little TB Gatsby off my mind. We both rode him at lessons this week. Apologies to the 40's group because I posted about this in our thread as well. And y'all have given me great advice there; I'm just updating here for those who aren't lucky enough to be 40 yet.

Yesterday I messaged our trainer and asked if I was being dumb not buying Gatsby for Evan and she said yes. I fully trust her, I do. I will not buy a horse just because she says so, but if she thinks it's a good idea, I'd be much more inclined to do it. I truly think she cares about her clients and Evan and she's not just trying to make a buck.

The more I know Gatsby the more I like him. He's just so CALM and he is more trained that Casper. The trainer and I are going to talk about it today. I have a big list of questions for her. Feel free to add to my list. I'm going to ask:

- Could Gatsby ever become the all-around horse that Casper is? Could he trail ride, just hack around, wear a western saddle, do open shows, etc.? I know she's just be predicting, but since he's been there in training about 6 weeks I think she knows him pretty well.

- Is Gatsby an easy keeper? Casper is...other than having his teeth done, which I think is normal, he is barefoot and hasn't had issues in 3.5 months we've leased him.

- What are the barn rules? When can I ride? Can friends ride with us? Can we ride outside? (I think they own the hay field behind their barn, for example)

- If Evan and I want to ride together, can I ride one of the lesson horses or do a partial lease on a lesson horse?

- Would he have to be stall boarded with turnout or is pasture board an option? All of her current boarders are stall boarded w/ turnout, but two of her own horses + one lesson horse are in a pasture with a walk-in shelter. I think this is a better arrangement for horses. The other boarders mostly have horses that I call "pampered show babies" that live in a heated barn that is cleaner than my house.

I'm starting to realize how much my son enjoys the social aspect and just the business (busy-ness I mean) of the lesson barn. It's a VERY nice barn with a huge indoor arena and a nice outdoor area. Our current barn has a small indoor that he's bored with an no outdoor arena (although there is a huge pasture). The lesson barn has several kids my son's age that ride. If we don't end up w/ the TB maybe what I need to think about doing is buying Casper and moving him to the lesson barn.

Thanks for listening to me think out loud! I really do value your input and consider what you've said!
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This is a big decision. I think your first question is a really important one. Can Gatsby be used for lots of different things. What if Evan loses interest? Girls are going to be pretty high on his radar very soon if they aren't already! If you buy Gatsby, will he be a good horse for you? If so, then maybe it's a good idea. But you've got a pretty sweet deal going on right now - keep in mind the financial burden is going to go up significantly. Buying a horse for Evan means paying full board, vet bills, farrier and then of course there are the show costs. Being part of that "scene" means wanting to be part of all the shows and events. My daughter, like Evan, loves that part of it, but it's getting more and more expensive all the time. Which is fine, but make sure you're prepared to maintain this passion in the long run. I find that once I commit to something like an extra lesson a week, it's really hard to stop even though the idea was only to do it for a little while.

I sometimes think I haven't made my daughter work hard enough to have a horse and that maybe she'd appreciate Harley more if she'd had to work for it.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you are prepared to go all out with this knowing that Evan may or may not continue to be interested in horses, and are ok with that, then maybe it's a good idea, assuming you could ride Gatsby too. But don't make the same mistake I did of thinking you're buying the perfect horse for your kid only to find out maybe your kid doesn't love the idea quite as much as you do. Not sure that makes sense, but I think you understand what I mean. :) And if you buy Gatsby, maybe it can be for yourself, but you're LETTING Evan ride him.

Also, maybe consider whether pasture board will be enough. What if he is lame and has to be stalled? That's something you could ask. Horses that live outside all the time are happy, but I'd want access to a stall when the weather is bad, when the horse is sick and just to have a place to call his own where he can rest and feel safe.

You also mention there are a lot of pampered show horses in the barn. My experience is that before we had Harley, I had all kinds of ideas about how this and that were totally unnecessary items. I wasn't going to blanket my horse and now I own FOUR different blankets. What I'm trying to say is that if Evan starts hanging out with the show crowd, he will probably want all the things they have for their horses and that will start getting really expensive. Of course you could make him get a part-time job to pay for those extras!
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AA, thanks so much for your advice, since I know you've just gone through something very similar. It is really hard to separate what I want for my kids and what they want for themselves. I would have killed to have a horse like Gatsby as a kid. Part of me is wanting for him what I would have wanted. I would like to buy Gatsby for myself. I do think he's a fun horse to ride...so tall and leggy, and just a cute boy. Plus, she offered us free lessons in exchange for her using him for 2 lessons a week for other kids. And the fact that she wants to use him for lessons shows how safe she thinks he is.

It IS a pampered-horse show barn. After talking to the BO today it sounds like pasture board isn't really an option for full time. It would be stall board w/ turnout up to 1/2 the day (depending on weather). Good point about the blankets and other gear. My son is certainly a "keep up with the Joneses" type of kid (aren't they all? :lol )

My son is a good worker...I guess he could get his own job this summer if he wants more horse paraphernalia.
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