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post #11 of 52 Old 09-28-2016, 03:49 PM
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@Dreamcatcher Arabians That reminds me of a story:

My previous BO has a dog for which she needed to take in a fecal to the vet.

The vet called and told her she needed to get another sample as the on she took wasn't even from a dog at all.

It was from a horse. LOL

She said no, it's the dog's she watched him do his business herself and went and picked it up.

That dog always ate up all the spilled and dropped feed from the horses, as well as hoof cleanings and clippings, and of course horse poop. Continually.

LOL
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post #12 of 52 Old 09-28-2016, 03:59 PM
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It is best that she learn to accept a syringe.

My rescued Arab would rear, in the beginning, if I dared get near his mouth with a syring. I was strong enough back then to hold onto his halter and hold him down while he tried rearing.

Once he grudgingly accepted the syring (which I dosed him quickly at the back of his mouth), his next very clever trick was to hold the meds until I took the halter off. He would walk away and spit it out, lollollol

He did that once:). I had to walk him and massage his throat at the same time. That horse could hold his "swallow" for almost five minutes, lollol

For now putting the worm meds in the feed pan is ok but, as has been commented, it has to be cloroxed out so the dogs and cats can't lick any remnants on the walls of the feed pan. Even remnants that can't be seen can be dangerous.


I have a horse on yucky tasting insulin meds that he refuses to eat in his feed pan. He's been getting those meds in water/pure apple juice via syring twice daily for four years. If he didn't accept a syringe, he would be up that famous creek without a paddle and probably eight feet under by now.

If your horse ever needs ulcer meds, or any sort of liquid antibiotic, it really does have to know how to accept a syringe:)
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I would absolutely work with her on this. What happens if you need to give her medication that you'd like to ensure she's getting? Or if she won't eat a medication over feed? I'd tackle the issue now, otherwise you'll be tackling her when you need to medicate her in a pinch!!
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To start training her, since the syringe seems to set her off, hold the syringe and a treat, a piece of apple or carrot or cookie, if she touches the syringe she gets a treat. stay there until she stops having a fit. If you have it hold it 2 feet away so that she does not toss her head or act up, start at 2 feet away. Get closer and closer.
Not many antibiotics are oral for horses, and I would ask the Vet for injectible if possible. I have never had a dog get a reaction from licking up after a horse with dewormer, I have washed the syringes out in the troughs, and the dogs have drunk from the troughs. My dogs have dumped the trash cans, gotten the ivermectin tubes and fenbendazole tubes and never had one get ill. The overdose rate can be found online. The only dogs that seem to have some issues are the 'collie and shepard breeds.
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My dogs have dumped the trash cans, gotten the ivermectin tubes and fenbendazole tubes and never had one get ill. The overdose rate can be found online. The only dogs that seem to have some issues are the 'collie and shepard breeds.
This dog got praziquantal & moxidectin from 10 horses. This was no joke, she nearly lost her dog and it cost her bundle. Better safe than sorry.
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There is more than one way to skin a cat!

I never had time to faff around with apple sauce in a syringe. The initial syringe can be a battle anyway.

Get the horse in a stable. Get a thick blanket and put it over the head so the horse is 'blind' or tuck a towel over the eyes held by the halter. Turn the horse around a couple of times. Then worm them. If you have someone to help you get them to hold a flat piece of wood over the horse's head so if they do raise their head they feel the wood and think they are hitting the ceiling - few horses will deliberately hit their head.
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post #17 of 52 Old 09-29-2016, 02:52 AM
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Around here the standard is to give it in their food. I didn't even know you are supposed to use a syringe.
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post #18 of 52 Old 09-29-2016, 07:56 AM
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Around here the standard is to give it in their food. I didn't even know you are supposed to use a syringe.
Daily feed thrus do go in a feedpan:)

If it comes in a syringe, it should be administered from that syringe
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I called in at a friend's one day, she was in the stable with the vet. She had a gypsy cob, a pig ignorant lump of a horse and friend had asked the vet to worm it as she couldn't amd it would t eat it in feed. I watched in great amusement as the vet was slung around the stable by the horse who was throwing hos head up amd lifting friend and vet up. I said nothing until it got to the point where the could see someone was going to get hurt. The vet said she would come back another day and dope him to worm him.

I just said, "Want me to do it?"

Vet remarked that I would get hurt. Friend said, "Yes please."

I threw a blanket over his head, spun him around a few times amd administered the wormer with no problem at all. Friend was thrilled, vet wasn't so happy to be shown how to do it!

If you do this a few times they soon just accept the wormer as normal.
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..... I threw a blanket over his head, spun him around a few times amd administered the wormer with no problem at all. Friend was thrilled, vet wasn't so happy to be shown how to do it!....
That sounds like a move best left to experienced horsewomen/men! This 50-something novice probably will be fussing with applesauce.... that's more my skill level

I do really love to see someone pull out a maneuver that looks like magic, yet does the trick. My 'ex-horse' had a small eye ulcer, but would act up horribly including rearing to have the twice daily meds put in her eye. The barn owner (wonderful experienced horsewoman) was about to resort to sedating her each time, though she hated to. I was there, and she asked a visiting vet who happened to be there if he had any ideas... he proceeded to apply a 'hand twitch' maneuver to her shoulder, and we were all totally shocked. The mare just stood there quietly while they medicated her - and that worked on her every time for anything and we used it whenever we needed to calm her down. I guess different things work on different horses, because we tried the shoulder twitch on Kota and it did not do much unfortunately...

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