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post #171 of 177 Old 03-21-2016, 12:15 AM
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That one threw me for a loop too.
Ditto
You should not be riding with side reins!!!
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tHere is one other point to consider, regarding statistics on injuries and well broke horses, versus more green horses.
Those statistics are mis leading, as they take all class of riders, and then just gather info as to injuries
If, instead, a record was kept, regarding number of times experienced riders got hurt on green horses versus well broke horses, I think we would see less injuries with those riders riding well broke horses

Conversely, i'm pretty sure that green riders on green horses would clearly show more injuries then green riders on well broke horses

Thus, since I;m pretty sure, less experienced riders are going to be riding those broke horses, those statistics indicate that even green horse experienced rider combo, have less injuries then green rider on broke horses.
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Hi. I don't really use collection AT ALL! I hate it personally but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I believe that as long as you are using the most comfortable and least dangerous/easiest way of riding for YOUR HORSE then there is no problem. It becomes a problem when people do it for no reason which many people on here seem not to do, which is good! I ride with soft but with contact hands (does that make sense?) and I do use side reins, but only because she is a 14.2hh feisty Connie, with a hard mouth! (She came that way, we don't really know what happened there :() and I am only 13, so...

Anyway... to answer your question, we do it to keep the ponies happy in the long-run, even though it can be strenous at the beginning. But the top human racers wouldn't have got anywhere without a bit of hard work so why not???

The fact that you dislike a horse going collected yet use side reins is a misnomer, side reins are for getting a horse to have contact with the bit.
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Surely simple logic should tell you that if you compete in Eventing, Hunt, Team Chase, Show jump or any other of the extreme horse sports you're going to have a higher risk of accidents than if you plod around the trails on a very placid steady horse that thinks that galloping is a rude word so avoids it at all cost
The more you rely on your horse listening to you the moment you ask it too the more important training becomes, yes a brave intelligent horse will get you and itself out of trouble if needed but that should only be the back up plan when everything else has failed.
If a horse gets too used to making decisions or being allowed to make decisions or question decisions then its not going to be the sort that is always listening to its rider for guidance first so never going to be the safest for those more demanding competitions
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Holy moly! Those jumps are scary! Too much of a wimp here. I second guess doing trot polls and cavellettis. I'm thinking "What if she trips and we both go down??"

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I could understand not wanting to do it, but are you exaggerating when you say hate? Or do you honestly hate collection; and why?
I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't understand the reasoning for hating collection...
Yea i think i was exaggerating. Possibly, might have been in a bad mood. I don't hate it I just don't agree simply because it's easy to take it too far and hard to see where that line is.

Don't worry you don't come across rude at all. Sorry if I do xx
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The fact that you dislike a horse going collected yet use side reins is a misnomer, side reins are for getting a horse to have contact with the bit.
I don't like side-reins and I'm not sure about Dusty in them. However my teacher thinks Dusty needs them. I do not agree but as I am still young I feel rude talking to her about this situation. I have however spoken to my dad and he's agreed to help me sort it out. I probably should have explained myself better. Also I do not hate collection I think I was possibly in a bad mood that
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