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post #31 of 52 Old 12-02-2014, 03:15 PM
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Also my assumption.........but I hate to assume.
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Being a horse that has been to much for you I would reccomend against breeding her. There's a 50/50 chance the foal will get her attitude and in turn be too much for you. There's a chance that things will change and the mare will die, the foal will die or you can no longer afford them.

Work on her retraining, keep her for a few more years and then see if she's still too much for you. I won't breed anything that does not have a stellar temperment and all the breedstock is highly trained to show me their temperament.

Again, I'd forgo breeding her. Work on improving her and yourself because trust me: the last thing you need is another unmarketable horse that'll end up in a potentially bad place. Not when there are a lot more foals and others out there who would be a better fit.

*Guess I should add that I'm not full of cacapooy. I know a woman who was in your similar situation, mare was too much for her and injured with a broken shoulder but had good bloodlines, she bred to a stud of a friend and through a rough pregnancy got a filly. The filly was just as bad as the mom and was too much for her so she bred her AGAIN. This pregnancy we almost lost the mom and baby due to complications multiple times. This time she got a colt. The colt was still too much for her and she ended up with two unmarketable, untrained mouths to feed. She was lucky that I liked the colt well enough to take him for free, she's still stuck with the filly and regrets breeding the mare.
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post #33 of 52 Old 12-02-2014, 04:29 PM
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I would have to agree that breeding is a bad idea. You mentioned in one of your other threads that she is unregistered, so technically she is a grade horse and not a quarter horse (though you could call her a "grade quarter horse" if you are certain that she is one). I also don't think that you can be sure that she has wonderful bloodlines if she isn't registered, and even so there is nothing to prove that she is actually attached to those bloodlines.

Of course, since she is unregistered her foal would also be unable to be registered, making it another grade. Since she is only 13 hands not only would many people be leery of buying her foal, but they would probably also question whether or not she is actually a quarter horse. (Not that there aren't ones that small, but you would want papers to be sure.)

Are you simply feeling stuck with her because you cannot ride her and cannot sell her? If so, post some more details so we can help. Where are you located? Maybe someone here lives nearby and has time to help you out a bit, or knows of a person/barn/rescue that wouldn't mind taking on the mare (probably for free, mind you) as a project or to rehome.

If you don't know what to do with her but want to move on to another horse that is more suitable for you, rehoming her for free to a trustworthy person is probably going to be your best bet. She's cute, but definitely small and with some conformational issues that sound like they'll need addressing (the interfering that is causing rubs on her legs). Where have you put ads up?
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post #34 of 52 Old 12-02-2014, 04:51 PM
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I wont say anything about colic as I tend to agree with others if they have a known problem with colic I wouldn't breed her..
Nor would I breed a horse with a bucking problem unless knowing it was a result in some kind of pain issue or bad training.. but if that was ruled out and they still have a bucking problem for some other unknown reason I'd be worried that would pass onto the foal and I've seen this happen, so no better off then where you started.
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Foals spend their first several months with the mare. Along with simple genetics, they ALSO learn behavior from the mare. If you don't like the mare, you probably won't like the foal.
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I would have to agree that breeding is a bad idea. You mentioned in one of your other threads that she is unregistered, so technically she is a grade horse and not a quarter horse (though you could call her a "grade quarter horse" if you are certain that she is one). I also don't think that you can be sure that she has wonderful bloodlines if she isn't registered, and even so there is nothing to prove that she is actually attached to those bloodlines.

Of course, since she is unregistered her foal would also be unable to be registered, making it another grade. Since she is only 13 hands not only would many people be leery of buying her foal, but they would probably also question whether or not she is actually a quarter horse. (Not that there aren't ones that small, but you would want papers to be sure.)

Are you simply feeling stuck with her because you cannot ride her and cannot sell her? If so, post some more details so we can help. Where are you located? Maybe someone here lives nearby and has time to help you out a bit, or knows of a person/barn/rescue that wouldn't mind taking on the mare (probably for free, mind you) as a project or to rehome.

If you don't know what to do with her but want to move on to another horse that is more suitable for you, rehoming her for free to a trustworthy person is probably going to be your best bet. She's cute, but definitely small and with some conformational issues that sound like they'll need addressing (the interfering that is causing rubs on her legs). Where have you put ads up?
We know her sire and dam names and have looked at them on allbreedspedigree. She is not the horse that is rubbing on her legs, that is another mare I own. I guess part of it is thinking that she would produce beautiful babies and that I want a baby. I like her speed because she is very very fast. If she were just a bit taller, I would have already sold her twice to some people who wanted to train her to be a roper like her parents. I live in Utah. I have put ads on ksl and craigslist.
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Just sell her and take a loss, if you have to. =/
Consider that ANY misbehavior on her part will be taught to her foal.
I considered breeding my (now) 16yo KMHSA mare. I bought her as a 10yo, she has dropped 4 healthy foals, and is a joy to handle and ride. I wanted to have a foal with a mare that trusts me and would let me handle and play with her foal. I'll bet IF you breed this mare, she'll try to run you off and kick you in the head if you got anywhere Near HER foal.
Reconsider. Broodmares should be proven riding and healthy specimens and should have excellent manners, as well as bloodlines. It isn't the back up plan for an animal that is unmanageable/unhealthy.
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If you want a foal take the money from selling her and buy a well mannered sweet tempered foal of your choice :).

I'd recommend working with a trainer and such to keep things like that, etc, of course.
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I guess part of it is thinking that she would produce beautiful babies and that I want a baby.

I can not think of a worse reason to breed a mare. Especially since you have already stated that you don't intend to keep the foal.

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The very worst reason to breed a mare is because she cannot do anything else.

We breed professionally and have sold literally hundreds of not thousands of horses that we have raised. Over 35 have been shipped over seas, so we KNOW there is a demand for our breeding. We seldom breed a mare that we have not trained and ridden and really like the way she trained and rode. I would never even think of breeding a known 'flunk-out'. You would just raise another flunk-out.

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