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post #11 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 09:06 AM Thread Starter
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Well done on your research.

Unless you have very good grazing a horse will get through more than a normal sized bale of hay a week in the winter

I agree the buying horse and tack is to low. Yes, you can pick up cheap horses and tack buy cheap tack is not usually any good and at times unsafe.

An OTTB would need transitioning to going barefoot and this can take over a year. Not a lot of TBs have the best of feet.

You mention about a car and leaving it at the stables - is there a spare car in the family or are you going to have to buy one? If so there will be running costs for that.

The other thingy is insurance, you should have a third party cover so if the horse escapes and does damage you are covered.

Whatever the figure you come up with you can bet it will cost more!
My grazing is 5 acres of pretty decent grass. Over the summer, my friend's horse doesn't need to have any extra feed and gets fat, and over winter he gets hay and a little bit of hard feed.

I think that after you guys have pointed it out - the price for horse/tack is too low. I'll have a look and see how much I can raise it by, in order to get a nice horse/gear and not have my parents think I will become a broke university dropout!

I'm not sure whether or not I'd need third party insurance, but I'll look into it, thanks! :)
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post #12 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 10:00 AM
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Prices for horses vary from horse to horse, area to area. A horse in New Zealand could easily be $300 while over in America its $1000.

OP has a good plan. Besides weekly and monthly costs, add them up to yearly costs. Will you be able to afford it plus college?

I think you should call the farriers/vets in your area and ask how much they cost along with horse experience, do they do emergency calls, etc. If you know anybody with horses, ask them who their vet and farrier is.

Also, tack. If you have tack stores, go browse them. Figure out average price for each tack. Plus take a look at training tools, grooming tools, a helmet, etc.

Will you have an arena or closed space to train your horse in? I doubt a pasture with other horses that could come bother would be the greatest.

Best of luck to you!
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post #13 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 02:50 PM
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Yes, horses are expensive, and if the rest of your family is not interested in them, they may be annoyed at the whole idea.
I am guessing you are probably age 16 or 17?
A teenage girl with a hobby she is passionate about is worth the expense in my opinion. It will make you strong, slinging bales of hay. You wont be afraid to get your hands dirty, shoveling manure. You will learn responsibility, caring for a creature that depends on you, learning to manage your time between family, school and barn. Most importantly you won't be bored, with nothing better to do than hang out at the mall all the time. You won't be concerned with impressing some guy, they will have to impress You in order to get your attention.
My 15 year old stepdaughter is horse crazy, and I pray she remains so through her twenties. We don't mind footing the bill :))
Good luck with your horse! :)
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post #14 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 04:39 PM
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Its true prices vary but I think if anything its the other way around. From what I've seen on this forum horses seem to be cheaper to buy in America than many other countries I've been too. Off the track horses can be picked up dirt cheap but for a nice, even green, non ex racer you're often looking at $2000+, for a very basic horse.

I think its good you are considering your price range OP. If you have more money you have more choice, but if you get away with $1200 all up you'll have money left over which is always good. Its a win either way :)
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post #15 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 04:49 PM
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Oops - for clarification where I said "they have hinted many times" then continued to state what the restricted license is, I meant they have hinted that I will be able to own a horse.
The drive to the RDA was half an hour, not a whole hour!

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I'll simply say that being able to obtain a horse is the easy part. Maintaining the horse is the costly part and that is if everything goes well. A few unexpected vet bills and you can find yourself in a financial hole rather quickly.
I think you need to look at this from your parent's perspective and honor their wishes.
It's a large cost and a long term investment.
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post #16 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
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I know some of you will be sceptical, of course, but it isn't that hard to find a nice OTT who has been in work for a while, through Facebook groups, friends of friends, etc. Obviously you have to go and see the horse to make sure its sound, etc. But just proving it is possible with these screenshots! :)
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post #17 of 22 Old 01-09-2015, 09:55 PM
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I didn't read your report, but if you haven't added it, I suggest setting aside some money for a vet check.

I know, I know, I'm being THAT person that is like, "Vet checks are essential, you need one, blah blah blah..."

But, a vet check could have saved me a lot of money. And using my senses. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Learned these lessons the hard way.

Bought a horse for my niece. Nice little Arab. No vet check. He's great...except when we got him home, and winter came, he started coughing. And lost a bunch of weight. Turns out he's got heaves...and is a super hard keeper.

Another horse that I bought I got a vet check on, and she said he wasn't sound. No big deal, they said he had a little degenerative joint disease and just had his very first injection. Didn't get x-rays. Horse had severe navicular, which I found out a year later after being hurtled off at many jumps and losing my confidence because with his pain came unsafe behavior.

It really can save a lot of trouble, so I recommend it, especially if there's something about the seller or the horse that seems off.

Also, I don't know if this has any relevance to knowing if you bought a good horse, but the only horse I have that didn't come with problems is the one where the owner has stayed in touch all five years that I've owned him. She loves seeing pictures on Facebook. An owner that seems to really care about the horse is probably a little more trustworthy, I would think.

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post #18 of 22 Old 01-10-2015, 03:39 AM
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My mother hates horses, same as my dad. :/ I only loan Beano, he's not actually mine, but I want to get a 15hh Welsh Cob :/ there is no chance I'll own a horse.

Sorry I didn't help :P
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post #19 of 22 Old 02-28-2015, 01:12 AM
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Just another thought. When I ran a lesson/training/breeding barn many years ago I would often 1/2 lease my lesson horses to a student. And sometimes I would get a horse as payment for services and then would offer a student a full lease on this horse. The student would be expected to pay board, shoeing, and vet expenses. If I knew the student wanted to eventually own a horse, I would recommend that he or she purchase their own saddle. This was an excellent way for the lessor to get a good idea of how much the whole "horse-owning" experience was going to cost. I'd still require them to take at least one lesson a month and was usually willing to help them out with advice. There were a couple times when I ended up selling the "lease-horse" to them. Something for you to think about: You will probably be going off to college fairly soon--what do you plan on doing with your horse then? I REALLY know how it is - wanting your very own horse - and you've thought this out very well. But think about the future too College can also be a time when trying to balance time away and care for a horse can be a bit difficult. Best of luck to you!
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post #20 of 22 Old 02-28-2015, 11:13 AM
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Katelow; I read your proposal to your parents and believe it is very, very good but there is one thing I have found over the years: Most non-riding parents and others who do not care for horses especially will never believe that owning a horse as in investment. In fact, they will tend to thing it is a waste of money. Perhaps another approach might be showing how much you want and need your own horse! Like stressing that this is a life-long passion and one you know will be enriching and rewarding. I went through this with my son who wanted to partake in hobbies I initially didn't support (parachuting, racing), I found that he was able to convince me best by being prepared and careful and I have grown to promote it because of the trust we developed with these projects. SO start small, build trust as you go - don't make it overwhelming for them by offering too much info. I believe most parents generally want their kids to be happy and productive - and safe. Your parents should be impressed with your planning (I am!) but you need to let them know how much you really, really love and need a horse for your very own. Just my opinion, but of course you know your parents best. I wish you truly, truly a happy experience and hope to hear about your new horse soon!
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