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post #1 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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Could you review my post and videos?

Good morning All,
Not to sound like a broken record.. but, I'm a new horse owner with less than 3 years riding experience. I was gifted a horse that everyone but the one who gave her to me said I would never be able to ride. And the one who gave her to me, is constantly worrying about me too. So, I really have no one to share my experiences with. My horse has been battling various "lameness" issues since before I owned her. In my opinion, the only thing bothering her now is her shoulder. She does not act like she is in pain, she just appears to be off. She's recently lost a significant amount of weight - planned with exercise and diet - and I hope the shoulder resolves itself with continued strengthening exercises; however, I will have the chiro back out in the very near future. He was last out less than a couple of months ago, and the shoulder seemed to be out again the next day which I attribute to the weight and in general poor conditioning. I have ridden this horse 6 times total. 4th ride I decided to try riding her without the bit, because I know I am not finessed enough to use one effectively and I felt it was affecting our progress. I have now ridden her two full rides without one, and it is going great IMO. What I'm wondering is, if you have time, would you be willing to look at my videos and let me know after viewing them, does the shoulder look to be improving at all in my most recent video, titled 9/02/14?
Note: my horse has a "bad side" ... I'm sure you'll notice right off which way that is ... In the most recent video, you'll see that she shuts me down 70% of the time when I try to get her to go that way ... I've just recently started using leg cues also and it's only because of that that I can get her to turn the "bad way" 30% of the time. It's a work in progress. She needs encouragement to travel that direction on the ground too, so it's no surprise she's needing encouragement also in the saddle. If you all have any ideas about that, I'd love to hear them :)
Thank you!!

First ride 6/21

2nd ride 6/22 (horse gifter took the video .. it's probably important you hear her comments and mine)

She had a long break in between the 2nd ride and the 3rd since the BO thought I should wait to ride her until she had lost at least 99#

3rd ride 8/30

6th ride 9/2

Can you note any improvement at all in either or both the horse or the rider from past to present?
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post #2 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 01:53 PM
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this horse is pretty messed up, sorry to say. there is improvement. true. but the way she moves , to me, says a lot of pain, or shall we say "discomfort".

I am not sure what. sometimes, as in the first videos, it looks like a horse that has parts of her body that hurt more than others, but also looks like a hrose that is having a laminitic episode, and all of her feet hurt. she just looks like she wants to get weight off of them as fast as possible, and put them down as carefully as possible. has she been examined for laminitius?

in other places she appears off in her left fore or right rear, hard to say.

I would like to see her moving without a rider on her. I do not think riding her now is such a good idea.
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post #3 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:08 PM
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it looks like a horse that has parts of her body that hurt more than others, but also looks like a hrose that is having a laminitic episode, and all of her feet hurt. she just looks like she wants to get weight off of them as fast as possible, and put them down as carefully as possible. has she been examined for laminitius?
https://www.horseforum.com/new-horses...0/#post6140474

Here is the OP's other post, does say horse has had a bout of laminitius. Horse does look very off to me, specifically in the most recent ride. I'm definitely no expert in horse heath though, just an observation after having a gelding with some lameness issues
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post #4 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:15 PM Thread Starter
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I don't have any recent video of her without a rider, but here is one from last fall where my MIL (BO) was (trying) to work with her.

Please understand she has been closely followed by vet, farrier and chiro. She is a Paso Fino - are you familiar with the breed? I'm not being smart, I think this is an important question as they do not move the same as every horse.

Houston, you think she looks worse off in the most recent video? Yikes. This is all very discouraging.

I have not ridden her for more than 20 minutes ever and always at a walk. I get so much conflicting advice. The vet and farrier tell us we baby her and if we don't get her moving, she will never improve. Vet wants her weight at 850, she measured at 999# on 5/30, she is at 893# now.
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post #5 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:21 PM
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I wondered if she might not be a gaited horse. yes, that does make a difference.

she moves more evenly without a rider. but, still see some limping on the front, was that . . . left? She's a really cute horse.

I do not think your riding is any issue. the next obvious thing is saddle fit.
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post #6 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, it's the front left shoulder that is suspect and what she had adjusted in May. The bout with laminitis was right front early on in July.
The saddle is Tereque brand, made for Pasos. I actually bought it from a lady in Kentucky who boards at my horse's breeder's farm. The breeder told me this saddle would fit my horse perfectly, and sad to say - if it's not obvious, I don't know enough to say it doesn't. For my MIL (BO) and SIL not to say anything about the saddle fit .. very out of character for them both. Sigh. I've been considering trying her in my MIL's english style saddle, but I'm a little nervous about trying something new with less "stick" I guess. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your observations :)
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post #7 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:35 PM Thread Starter
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What the heck were they thinking giving the new girl a Paso ! ? ! ? ;)
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post #8 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 02:46 PM
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She is cute. I recently watched a movie about Paso Finos and they do move quite different; they have these very quick little steps, totally adorable.

I would do a lot of lunging with her and only ride a little bit here and there. You can do a lot of muscle building with correct lunging.
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post #9 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you frlsgirl :) I'm lunging her on a long rope at a walk 5 minutes each direction, then a corto 5 minutes each direction and back to a walk 5 minutes right side, 10 left (her bad side) currently. We'll work up as we can. She is the sweetest horse, though before I owned her, she was the last horse in the barn I wanted to mess with! She's very timid, and it's taken a very long time to earn her trust, but we have come a long, long way. My brother passed away a few months ago and I was gone from the barn for a week. No one could catch her for the first three days. It's like she knew something was not right with me. Normally she will let the BO handle her as long as she is last in, to be sure I'm not coming for her :) Love her to pieces.
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post #10 of 20 Old 09-03-2014, 03:32 PM
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Houston, you think she looks worse off in the most recent video? Yikes. This is all very discouraging.
I just rewatched some of the earlier videos and honestly I think I may have just watched the last video more closely since I watched it on your other post as well . Like I said, I'm definitely not an expert on anything, as I'm still learning myself. It does seem to me she feels more comfortable with movement in the last video compared to the earlier videos. While obviously still favoring her front left, it seems she's moving out more free and seems less "ouchy" maybe?

I think she is beautiful and hope she comes around for you!
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