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post #1041 of 1323 Old 11-24-2015, 12:37 AM
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Okay hoofpic you did the lunging and it didn't work for either of you so why go back to something that didn't work?
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Okay hoofpic you did the lunging and it didn't work for either of you so why go back to something that didn't work?
What do you mean it didnt work for either of us? Ive accomplished quite a bit with her when lunging her. Considering how when I very first got her, I wasnt even able to get her to move and when I was...I had trouble changing her direction, she would refuse to go one side etc etc. She had no energy because I put no energy in my body language, I was far too passive. I was a mule on the line. i was weak.

But now, I am not the same person as I was 5 months ago. Not to sound overly confident but I have learned a lot in lunging and even though I dont care for 20mins of non stop circles (pointless, they achieve nothing except bore the horse), I do like controlling their feet, changing direction, tempo, disengaging their hind, etc. I love using the flag and am just as confident working the flag as the carrot stick.

Its too bad I didnt get my mare today seeing how Ive progressed with lunging in general. I would have taken off at a much MUCH stronger and different approach than when I got her. I think it would have made a signfiicant difference but whats done is done. I now know how to use my body language, my feet, my arms, my shoulders, flag, carrot stick, whatever to get them to move on the line. I just wish I knew this months ago and was able to fully apply it when I was doing all the groundwork with her.

I have no doubt in my mind I would have been able to patch more of the holes in her previous groundwork training from the previous owner. No her groundwork isnt perfect and still could use some work, but its good enough IMO. But for me, I just know I could have done better had I had the knowledge I do right now, months ago. :( This is a selfish mistake on my part. I regret it dearly. Im not exactly proud of myself.

I mean you guys got to see a glimpse of me when I had her in the roundpen a couple weeks ago. But not the same as on a full line.

All I know is, the other day I was reflecting back to when I first got her, all the times I lunged her at the old barn all by myself (from learning off the trainers) compared to what I know now, was WEAK!!!! So bad in comparison, I cant even believe I did it with my mare! I wish I could have those times back, I really do. Theres so much more I would have given had I known what I do today.

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What do you mean it didnt work for either of us? Ive accomplished quite a bit with her when lunging her. Considering how when I very first got her, I wasnt even able to get her to move and when I was...I had trouble changing her direction, she would refuse to go one side etc etc. She had no energy because I put no energy in my body language, I was far too passive. I was a mule on the line. i was weak.

But now, I am not the same person as I was 5 months ago. Not to sound overly confident but I have learned a lot in lunging and even though I dont care for 20mins of non stop circles (pointless, they achieve nothing except bore the horse), I do like controlling their feet, changing direction, tempo, disengaging their hind, etc. I love using the flag and am just as confident working the flag as the carrot stick.

Its too bad I didnt get my mare today seeing how Ive progressed with lunging in general. I would have taken off at a much MUCH stronger and different approach than when I got her. I think it would have made a signfiicant difference but whats done is done. I now know how to use my body language, my feet, my arms, my shoulders, flag, carrot stick, whatever to get them to move on the line. I just wish I knew this months ago and was able to fully apply it when I was doing all the groundwork with her.

I have no doubt in my mind I would have been able to patch more of the holes in her previous groundwork training from the previous owner. No her groundwork isnt perfect and still could use some work, but its good enough IMO. But for me, I just know I could have done better had I had the knowledge I do right now, months ago. :( This is a selfish mistake on my part. I regret it dearly. Im not exactly proud of myself.

I mean you guys got to see a glimpse of me when I had her in the roundpen a couple weeks ago. But not the same as on a full line.

All I know is, the other day I was reflecting back to when I first got her, all the times I lunged her at the old barn all by myself (from learning off the trainers) compared to what I know now, was WEAK!!!! So bad in comparison, I cant even believe I did it with my mare! I wish I could have those times back, I really do. Theres so much more I would have given had I known what I do today.
What I meant to say but I just woke up.. You have already accomplished lunging and getting a nice rhythm theirs no reason to go back to it unless something has changed drastically.
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Your trainers did not bring it up because it is probably not relevant.


I think all the points are true, Until you get to the last sentences of the ones I listed.
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Did you feel this way about learning to drive a car, too??

ALL of US are LEARNING, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Even DReamcatcher. Even Enh. ALL of us. LOOK AHEAD....not back.
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Did you feel this way about learning to drive a car, too??

ALL of US are LEARNING, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Even DReamcatcher. Even Enh. ALL of us. LOOK AHEAD....not back.
You get me GreenTree. What I was trying to say in a nutshell..
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What I meant to say but I just woke up.. You have already accomplished lunging and getting a nice rhythm theirs no reason to go back to it unless something has changed drastically.
Ok, no point going back. I just know if i bought my mare today, having the knowledge and practice that I have today, I would have been able to fill a bit more holes while on the lunge line. But its all a learning process
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Your trainers did not bring it up because it is probably not relevant.
Hmm well now when I think of it, I think having your horse yield to you first before they go forward on the line is very important. Warwick says failing to do so can cause issues elsewhere and I agree with him. he has a good point


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I think all the points are true, Until you get to the last sentences of the ones I listed.
Ok thanks
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LOOK AHEAD....not back.
OP, as you become more experienced and begin riding more you will find just how poignant this small statement is.
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I like Warwick Schiller- just be mindful that you do still have an actual trainer you are paying, and that trainer is still working with your horse.
Keep in mind my previous statement about your warwick schiller subscription. I was kind of worried this would happen. You need to remember that Warwick is not with your horse, your trainer is. And your trainer is working with her daily. You are getting conflicting info. My suggestion is back off of the videos until your trainer is DONE with your mare. You will only confuse yourself and your mare.
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