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post #1171 of 1323 Old 12-01-2015, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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I don't think she meant the horse would step on the pallet.....they break when *I* step on them!!
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Sorry! I wasn't clear on my question....I was just wondering if you had seen her walk, trot, lope, etc. I knew she was taking a winter break.
Other than the first 2 times she rode her (where it was a lesson for me as it was mixed with other stuff) no, because when she trains and rides boarders horses she does it during the daytime on the weekdays. So of course I was at work

Im not worried about my mares training being put on hold til the Spring, as I know horses retain training very well (6 weeks of 3 times a week riden is a good decent amount for my mare to retain IMO), but Im more concerned about her losing her conditioning over the winter months but thats why its up to me to do what ever I can to minimize what she loses (by walking her).

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I would not do steel toes.....more from a fashion standpoint than anything else, LOL!! I know that doesn't concern you, Hoofpic!
I find a lot of steel toes you cant even tell from the outside . As long as it saves my toes thats all that matters.

I just dont want to risk having the metal bend into my toes, ouch!

Is it worth paying more for a better quality steel boot or will your average ones (with good reviews of course) do?

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I am pretty good at knowing where the feet are going....and dancing out from under them before they land on my foot.
Ive made it a habit of doing this and watching my mares feet more. Though, accidents happen and cant always avoid them. The most important thing is that I am allowing enough space from her feet to mine, when shes tied, leading, cleaning her feet etc.
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I was thinking the other day, you don't know how happy I am now that my mare is in a herd, (coming up to 1 month already!!! boy time flies).

She has made friends and seems to be already pretty attached to all her herd mates. Cant quite tell who she is the closest to but I think all 3. Even though the fillie is crazy in love with my mare, (she loves her more than my mare loves her), cause my mare will boss her around. They will often eat together but just the other day I caught my mare biting her on the butt lol.

I have an old pair of binoculars that I keep in my car. Comes in handy as I can see exactly whats going on in the field from the parking lot.

My mare will often eat off the same pile and close to the others, which is great. Before the BO had to feed her at a distance from the rest but now it seems the herd has accepted her to let her eat off their piles together.

She has also bonded with 2 of the 3 mares in the herd right over the fence. One of them is just in love with my mare.

Everytime I take her out, her mates will call for her (Theyre herd bound unfortunately)...I do not want my mare to become herd bound! Ive been wanting to see how she reacts when another one of her mates gets taken out from the herd but I havent seen this yet. 2 of her 3 mates are the BOs and for sale, so they almost never come out of the field. And when they see my mare coming back, they prance going back and fourth along the fence.

As far as herd dynamics go, its interesting and am very curious on watching more of the herd (and the one next to them) because even those they are two herds, I do believe that because they are right over the fence from each other, the two herds can get quite close and become united in some ways. Because my mare is by far the youngest horse of the 2 herds, Im wondering if any of her mates have the mentality and goal of protecting her because she is so young.

Are horses able to tell exactly how old another horse is? And quickly?

Havent seen her groom with another mate yet. All her mates are 15hh and shes only 14.2. so would that be an issue where she wont groom another horse? This is something I would love to see but it might be too soon to expect to see it.

I still wish I could clean out that pasture field though. Id be willing to spend a full day just mucking it. But again, I like super clean homes for horses.

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Just putting my 2 cents worth in you should have at least once watched your trainer actually training you mare. Made a surprise visit I know that sounds paranoid but that's what I would do.
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post #1174 of 1323 Old 12-01-2015, 01:26 PM
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Just putting my 2 cents worth in you should have at least once watched your trainer actually training you mare. Made a surprise visit I know that sounds paranoid but that's what I would do.
Completely, 100% agree with this! Even if you trust your trainer more than anyone in the world...I would still pop in from time to time...
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Just putting my 2 cents worth in you should have at least once watched your trainer actually training you mare. Made a surprise visit I know that sounds paranoid but that's what I would do.
I know and would have but I couldnt because of work. Am I curious as to where my mare is in the saddle? Of course. But I will have to wait til the Spring to see with my own eyes....UNLESS of course my trainer feels that I have progressed enough through the winter as a rider and I get on my mare in the winter.

I have a feeling I will at least ride my mare ONCE before the winter ends. Even if its just a basic walk, woah, stand. I do not expect to be full trotting my mare around 20m circles anytime soon. Though I did really well this past Sat on the lesson mare, I have high expectations for myself and want to get myself better.

Thats 4-4.5 months for me to really work on it, so Im confident I can become a good enough rider before winter is over!

Im still only riding once a week (on weekends) and thats fine by me. Thankfully I learn very fast and I retain information really really well, but am wanting to do twice a week. Its just hard because during the week my trainer, for the most part is mainly there in the day times and not a lot of days where she is there later at night and jesus does she have a lot of clients! She is very busy.

I have time off during Christmas and plan on picking it up (need to check on her availability though).

Obviously weather is a factor as well. -15 and colder and they dont do lessons, so I might have to expect at least a few weeks in the winter of not riding at all.

Hard to believe, but Ive only had 5 riding lessons so far with her but I have made great progress so far.
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... Ok and just put it on top of the tarp?


What if you cant get the horse to step on it?


What does cones on the sides of the tarp and pallets under do? ...
The plywood has nothing to do with the tarp. I would not put it on top of a tarp.

Hmmmm, just thinking though. As you both progress through working with plywood you could include a tarp. Maybe on the sides, or hung over the top. ..... Innovate, incorporate new ideas, come up with new ideas.

Next question, the first step is the most important one. Patience, patience, and by the way I do not suggest using food as I have seen some people try putting food on the wood. I prefer getting the horse to go forward when I ask.

Just patiently keep re-positioning her in front of the plywood, and when she relaxes there ask for a foot forward. If she dances away, keep her nose pointed at the plywood (where you want her to 'enter') and keep pressure on til she is at the spot then immediately drop all pressure, wait for her to compose herself on that spot, then ask again. Do not circle her, if she gets a bit too far around you, turn her back the way she came, not letting her complete a circle.

Third point: putting up sides. Is a variation of the squeeze game (going forward anywhere, anytime), and ever so valuable as a pre-cursory manuver to trailer loading.

With some horses I have used 4 barrels (one at the end of both long sides) filling the space between them with cones. With Chief I bought 4 plastic step in posts (under $2 each at TSC) and used some scary yellow caution tape I had on hand to string between them.

Have to admit, it assimilates a trailer fairly well, even with the hollow sound of stepping on the plywood.

A neighbor of mine has a pallet rebuilding business. I asked him if he could make me a pallet that fit the plywood and attach it. He kindly did that for no charge. Have seen people nail plywood to 2 smaller pallets though.

After we were pretty successful in the arenas, my board was drug out over a swale to make a 'real' bridge.

Have some video clips on my computer of it. Will try to make a YouTube account and upload them.
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The plywood has nothing to do with the tarp. I would not put it on top of a tarp.
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Hmmmm, just thinking though. As you both progress through working with plywood you could include a tarp. Maybe on the sides, or hung over the top. ..... Innovate, incorporate new ideas, come up with new ideas.

Next question, the first step is the most important one. Patience, patience, and by the way I do not suggest using food as I have seen some people try putting food on the wood. I prefer getting the horse to go forward when I ask.

Just patiently keep re-positioning her in front of the plywood, and when she relaxes there ask for a foot forward. If she dances away, keep her nose pointed at the plywood (where you want her to 'enter') and keep pressure on til she is at the spot then immediately drop all pressure, wait for her to compose herself on that spot, then ask again. Do not circle her, if she gets a bit too far around you, turn her back the way she came, not letting her complete a circle.
Will admit, am a bit confused. Trying to make a visualization of all this, just not happening right now. Will try again later.

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Third point: putting up sides. Is a variation of the squeeze game (going forward anywhere, anytime), and ever so valuable as a pre-cursory manuver to trailer loading.
Oh ok.

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With some horses I have used 4 barrels (one at the end of both long sides) filling the space between them with cones. With Chief I bought 4 plastic step in posts (under $2 each at TSC) and used some scary yellow caution tape I had on hand to string between them.

Have to admit, it assimilates a trailer fairly well, even with the hollow sound of stepping on the plywood.

A neighbor of mine has a pallet rebuilding business. I asked him if he could make me a pallet that fit the plywood and attach it. He kindly did that for no charge. Have seen people nail plywood to 2 smaller pallets though.

After we were pretty successful in the arenas, my board was drug out over a swale to make a 'real' bridge.

Have some video clips on my computer of it. Will try to make a YouTube account and upload them.
Interest and yes if you can upload any videos you may have of this, I would be so thankful .

Im a visual learner so unfortunately sometimes things dont click into my brain until I see it.

Just curious, how many times/lessons did it take for you to get your horses to step comfortably on the tarp?

Im going to give the tarp another go perhaps tomorrow night. I would do tonight but the chiro is coming out to see my mare. I will let you guys know if my mare is needing an adjustment I was a bit surprised the cost of these equine chiros. They're considerably more than equine massage therapists.
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Only worked Chief with a tarp that one time.

I just made a brand new YouTube account and posted 2 videos on it.

They have the plywood bridge on them. I do not have any pics or videos from earlier work with the plywood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMK0dqdCLRk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMXB9YiAg-I
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Only worked Chief with a tarp that one time.

I just made a brand new YouTube account and posted 2 videos on it.

They have the plywood bridge on them. I do not have any pics or videos from earlier work with the plywood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMK0dqdCLRk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMXB9YiAg-I
Awesome thanks!!! I see what you mean now! You're lucky that you have spot on your land where you can put a piece of wood on (my barn doesnt have any).

Did you purposely let him take some bites of grass when he would go over or it just happened without you wanting it?

Do you think by you going onto the wood first (and him seeing you go on it and stand) that its positive encouragement for them?

Hes very cute, I love palominos.

The previous owner has said that she has done bridge work with my mare before, but never tarp. So I would this would be somewhat familiar to her. Im surprised she hasnt done the tarp, I would think the tarp would come first if anything.

I will have to watch those videos a few more times.
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Thanks. He had been on field/stall rest for 5 months due to an ankle injury.

I did take him out hand grazing, in my opinion it was way too soon to let him hand graze as initial training was not complete yet. He fell into very bad habits.

I did not want him to pick bites during the videoing, and corrected him each time.

He had a second injury to the same RF ankle/leg in May and was off work until September 2015. All together over a year off. I think we regressed below our starting point. LOL

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You do have a place to lay a piece of plywood down, I have seen flat places in your videos.

It would be good if you would reread my posts about the plywood exercises as I have done them.
They do NOT begin with the plywood bridge. They begin with a plain sheet laying in the dirt, and working in stages up to pulling it over the swale.
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