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post #1261 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 09:38 AM
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I got a new toy today. Anyone wanna guess what it is? Ive been wanting one for awhile and think I would get a lot of use out of it at the barn.

A big ball?

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post #1262 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 11:21 AM
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Im not worried, just want to make sure she gets all her vitamins and minerals. At the old barn, she wasnt taking in the minerals and I find it very hard to believe that the hay at the old barn (which was straw, 2nd cut, cheap quality hay) provided all the nutrients a horse needs.
Straw and hay are not the same thing. If you have an agricultural department in your area you could take in a sample out of the center of a bale and have it analyzed. If the condition of your mare is, nice coat and good hooves, she is very likely getting what she needs. What does your vet say about her condition?

Hoofpic, there are two boarders at my barn who bring in rich, Timothy hay and feed all kinds of things to their horses because they don't trust the hay provided. They groom their horses more than I do, they hand graze them on green grass for an hour a day and yet my mare has a better coat and hooves and is far more calm than these other horses. The vet has tried to tell these boarders they are causing an imbalance in their horses nutrition, but they are convinced that they MUST feed this very rich diet and supplements or they are being neglectful. Did I mention that their horses are so "high" on feed these ladies can't even ride them?

Do yourself a favor and listen to the knowledgeable people here of whom you have asked questions. Believe what they are telling you. Quit finding things to worry about. Every little worry you think about will transfer to your mare when you are working with her.

Having a horse is supposed to be fun and relaxing. So relax. Don't create problems where none exist.
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post #1263 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 12:38 PM
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Straw and hay are not the same thing. If you have an agricultural department in your area you could take in a sample out of the center of a bale and have it analyzed.

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Do yourself a favor and listen to the knowledgeable people here of whom you have asked questions. Believe what they are telling you. Quit finding things to worry about. Every little worry you think about will transfer to your mare when you are working with her.

Having a horse is supposed to be fun and relaxing. So relax. Don't create problems where none exist.
The hay v straw issue, and testing has certainly been addressed before, the difference was explained..

As to listening to people, here is the rub, the OP has been listening (or not listening) online for some time, with the usual wonderful spread of advice that you get on forums, much of which confuses him with it's contradictory nature.

Your advice to relax and enjoy is spot on, while some of horse interaction is a science, so much of it is an art, and one that you learn by doing. It is very sad to me that the OP was probably taken advantage of, and was sold an entirely unsuitable horse as his first horse, a lot of the stress and worry would have been removed by having a decently trained horse as a first one.

Finding a real life mentor would be great for the OP, not his trainer, but a real life person who he could share things, at the barn would be so beneficial. Having someone there "in the now" is invaluable, especially when dealing with a young horse,you simply cannot learn all the nuances, and the timings with online feedback...Having someone you trust, who can say that is OK, can take a lot of worry out, no matter what stage you are in your riding career.
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post #1264 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 12:46 PM
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I agree, you said you learn by being hands on as I recall ? Then you need to be hands on. There are some things we can't teach and you need to make decisions based on the situation you are in with your horse.

There are no issues with asking if you could have handled that better blah blah but you need to actually go out and experience the situation first!


Go out and enjoy your mare ! Make friends at your barn and really be in the moment ;)
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post #1265 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 01:44 PM Thread Starter
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Got one of these.



Got a really good deal on it otherwise would have held out longer. Been wanting one for awhile. I have it attached to my head using a head mount. Wore and tested it at the barn today and got a nice video for you guys.

I was a bit nervous having the BO see it. He seemed to be in a bad mood this morning. Maybe hes annoyed with me.

Rain and Ann, ill be still getting the ball as well.old trainer told me where to get one. But geez theyre not cheap.
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post #1266 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Horses will eat however much they want. I recently switched hay and it seems this new hay had a lot more to it then my last hay. I give him half a biscuit on the ground and 1 biscuit in a haynet he usually eats almost all the haynet and all the hay on the ground.

What you did you get ?
What do you mean by biscuit?

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Straw and hay are not the same thing. If you have an agricultural department in your area you could take in a sample out of the center of a bale and have it analyzed. If the condition of your mare is, nice coat and good hooves, she is very likely getting what she needs. What does your vet say about her condition?

Oh, all a boarder at the old barn told me was that straw is poor quality hay.

Well I dont think the BO would let me get his hay analyzed, he would be offended thinking Im doubting the quality of it. I know the hay he has is top grade as he has very high standards when it comes to hay. He will not settle for anything less.

The vet (the last time she came out) said her condition is really good, nothing wrong with her.

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Hoofpic, there are two boarders at my barn who bring in rich, Timothy hay and feed all kinds of things to their horses because they don't trust the hay provided. They groom their horses more than I do, they hand graze them on green grass for an hour a day and yet my mare has a better coat and hooves and is far more calm than these other horses. The vet has tried to tell these boarders they are causing an imbalance in their horses nutrition, but they are convinced that they MUST feed this very rich diet and supplements or they are being neglectful. Did I mention that their horses are so "high" on feed these ladies can't even ride them?

Why cant the ladies ride them? Are the horses hot?

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Do yourself a favor and listen to the knowledgeable people here of whom you have asked questions. Believe what they are telling you.

Ok, I will give the minerals a rest. If I need to, I can perhaps try to feed them loose to her in a bucket every once in a while but its obviously not doing be any good by mixing it in with her cubes.

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Quit finding things to worry about. Every little worry you think about will transfer to your mare when you are working with her.
True. I need not to worry.

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Having a horse is supposed to be fun and relaxing. So relax. Don't create problems where none exist.
Yes. Im not trying to create problems, if I was its 100% unintentional.

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post #1267 of 1323 Old 12-05-2015, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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The hay v straw issue, and testing has certainly been addressed before, the difference was explained..
Sorry, I will have to look it up again. THis slipped from me.

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As to listening to people, here is the rub, the OP has been listening (or not listening) online for some time, with the usual wonderful spread of advice that you get on forums, much of which confuses him with it's contradictory nature.

Your advice to relax and enjoy is spot on, while some of horse interaction is a science, so much of it is an art, and one that you learn by doing. It is very sad to me that the OP was probably taken advantage of, and was sold an entirely unsuitable horse as his first horse, a lot of the stress and worry would have been removed by having a decently trained horse as a first one.

Finding a real life mentor would be great for the OP, not his trainer, but a real life person who he could share things, at the barn would be so beneficial. Having someone there "in the now" is invaluable, especially when dealing with a young horse,you simply cannot learn all the nuances, and the timings with online feedback...Having someone you trust, who can say that is OK, can take a lot of worry out, no matter what stage you are in your riding career.
Well its all a learning lesson right? (Whinie will most likely disagree with me) but I have been taking things in the right direction with my mare. Could I have avoided all the extra worry and stress before by getting an older horse? Of course. But its all a learning experience.

I would love a real life mentor but I only have one local friend and hes not into horses, so I dont know anyone locally who is into horses.
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Sorry, I will have to look it up again. THis slipped from me.



Well its all a learning lesson right? (Whinie will most likely disagree with me) but I have been taking things in the right direction with my mare. Could I have avoided all the extra worry and stress before by getting an older horse? Of course. But its all a learning experience.

I would love a real life mentor but I only have one local friend and hes not into horses, so I dont know anyone locally who is into horses.
Why would I disagree with you? And I don't know how many boarders there are at your barn but I am guessing all of them are "into" horses.
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Well I took a quick video today with my new toy (please play it in 1080P, otherwise you wont get the max sharpness). It wasnt too fun cause it was windy and absolutely freezing out this morning!

One part I backed her up and she pinned her ears at me (or at least I think she did). Did she? She gave me the side eye again (she always does) when I back her. She did lick and chew though. Any thoughts?


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post #1270 of 1323 Old 12-06-2015, 01:03 AM
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I think that you simply cannot do two jobs at once,and expect any feedback, if you want to film, great do that, but you can't work effectively with the mare when your concentration is split, it is not fair.

If you want any sort of constructive feed back, have some one else video you while you give 100% attention to what you are doing.

SO yes she has her ears back, but what do you expect?
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