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post #1281 of 1323 Old 12-06-2015, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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You are way overthinking this licking and chewing thing.....
What do you mean?

Also did you get the video to work? Maybe try it on another device. I just tried it again on my computer and works fine.
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Well if that is you working two handed, I would stop worrying about ears and licking and chewing, just make her stand still when you are grooming her. Either tie her up, or learn to make her stand....basic stuff. I don't care if they are happy respectful, peed off, if I am grooming they had best stand still.
Oh I mentioned it just a bit earlier, Ive only free groomed her once like that and it was in the arena, never done it outside especailly next to her herd. I think she was distracted by her herd and possibly my head camera.

The couple times that I did free groom her in the arena, I had the lead on the floor and aside from her taking a small step here and there (but I will put her back in her spot and say stand) she is pretty good. Not perfect but this is something i would love to work on.

Now it would be a shame if the head camera wouldnt fly with my mare and be a distraction everytime - that means I wouldnt be able to use it at the barn. I would be a bit surprised cause when i visit her during the weekday nights, I have my head lamp on my head every time.
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I think she was distracted by her herd and possibly my head camera.
Each and every time you handle your horse you are teaching it something, yesterday you taught her that it was OK to be wandering around distracted and pulling faces at you while you groom her.

The herd simply should not be a distraction, do not make excuses for her, expect and demand respect.

As to the ice, horses have great balance, remember they have 4 legs, this is where different types of leading comes in...even though I prefer to lead Fergie right by her shoulder, this week when there was an ice sheet from a leaking bowl, I had her at the end of the rope, I want her head down looking where she is going, and I want to pick my own way through...she did really well, was calm and well mannered and just slipped a little on one front foot.
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I skipped the pages and pages of post to post my answer to your original posted question.
You are looking for your horse to obey you, quietly and calmly. The purpose of having the horse face you is so that, when your horse becomes frightened and distracted, YOU are the authority he/she looks to for leadership.
It's like ANYTHING ELSE with a horse. Lots of daily grind and accepting a little bit of effort, and then rewarding your horse's effort to encourage even more effort.
AND, never being completely satisfied with any behavior or movements under saddle or harness, while, at the SAME TIME, showing that you really LIKE and approve of your horse.
Animals will give up if you bully them.
Sometimes the trainers that put out these videos either bully the horses, or, make it Look like they are bullying these horses.
Finally, you don't beat yourself up if you are too harsh one day or too soft another day. Your horse will forgive you and probably not take too much of an advantage of you the next day, so all is not lost.
We are Constantly training our horses to be more manageable and ourselves to be better owners and trainers.
Also, your VOICE is probably your best training tool, and it doesn't require much muscle to use it.
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I see a horse with a coat in very good condition. She is acting/behaving very normally, like a horse.
Thanks. I think she has a great coat as well. The red in it is so prounounced.

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I just got a flashlight that goes on my head. All the horses are all very concerned about the thing on my head, whether it is on or off.

It may be more beneficial for the horse to wear the camera and film you. hahaha

Otherwise I don't much care for videos taken without seeing both parties of the team. Riding or groundwork.
Oh, well I guess but horses will get used to a stuff on your head no?

Ive decided as much as I want to, Im not going to use this head camera at the barn. Its going to be too much of a distraction and my mare probably wont like it much.

I just thought perhaps, some times when you see some stuff from a 1st person perspective it does help (like when grooming a horse). Obviously groundwork and riding you cant pick up much from a 1st person camera but its great for when you want to get up close.


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Currying technique could be improved, to go over all the horse, not just some of her, in circular with the hair growth motion, vigorous but not too heavy especially to start with each area-then increasing to pull up dirt from skin to surface.
Oh Im usually a lot harder with the curry comb and I go in circles. Its just that Im still in the cautious phase when brushing my mare seeing how shes probably not 100% healed and just had her first chiro adjustment last Tues.

So far she seems a lot better! Like wow so much better. Even though im still being gentle, she hasnt pinned her ears or told me that a certain spot is soar.

Im not surprised the drastic night and day difference an adjustment makes and how immediate it comes in to play. Like I said, my ex had a rib out and was grouchy, once she had it adjusted she was like a whole new horse the day after.

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The brush used with sponge in center is intended for bathing.
You mean the one Im using in the video? Oh I didnt know this. This was my brush that I picked up intending to use for winter only/ All my soft brushes are the the other kind, the regular ones (dandy brush is i guess you would call it)


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A dandy brush is needed to flick away the dirt that was raised from currying. I prefer a natural bristle brush, not nylon or poly or synthetic. Also I like 2 or 3 brushes, if I have the time will use all three.

First a short bristled stiff mud brush (sometimes use before the curry for caked on dried mud),
then a long bristled medium dandy brush (to get the dust off in a flicking of the wrist motion),
then a fine bristled finishing brush, optional (to smooth out the brush marks on the coat).
Didnt know there was this many. Any pics of examples? TIA
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Each and every time you handle your horse you are teaching it something, yesterday you taught her that it was OK to be wandering around distracted and pulling faces at you while you groom her.

The herd simply should not be a distraction, do not make excuses for her, expect and demand respect.

As to the ice, horses have great balance, remember they have 4 legs, this is where different types of leading comes in...even though I prefer to lead Fergie right by her shoulder, this week when there was an ice sheet from a leaking bowl, I had her at the end of the rope, I want her head down looking where she is going, and I want to pick my own way through...she did really well, was calm and well mannered and just slipped a little on one front foot.
Her giving me the side eye and pulling faces at me, ears back...what do you think she meant by it? Do you see giving me the side eye as acceptable?

What would you have done to correct her by getting her to stand still? When I did it in the arena months ago, (mind you she was a lot better), I would just back her up each time she would take a step. She takes 2 steps, she goes back 2 steps. She takes 1 step, she goes back 1.

Great news about the ice. So basically you gave your mare more slack in the lead when leading her over icy patches. Makes sense, I should do it with mine as well.
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Im feeling really confident right now in my riding. Had perhaps (at least this is what my trainer said) my best lesson today. She said shes impressed with the substantial gains and improvements ive been showing from lesson to lesson. And dont forget, Im only riding once a week, I learn really fast. I know this may sound odd (seeing how Im such a hands on learner) but Im really doing well with just 1 lesson a week.

I feel it allows me time for the info on what I learned to sync in. Yes I could be riding 2-3 times a week, but it might not allow me enough time for the stuff to sync in. You would think I would learn faster by riding more? Well so far, I seem to be excelling really well at just once a week! Im even shocked myself! hahaha. Cause we all know how my trainer kept preaching on me riding as much as I can but she said that if Im showing this much gain in this short amount of time by only riding once a week, then why change things when theyre working?

I think the biggest key is that today I just had a feeling inside me where things felt natural. Giving leg, working the reigns, my balance, posture, arms, eyes, everything just started to sync in last week and today it felt like I just carried right on from where I left off last week. Even though it was 8 days ago, last weeks lesson still felt very fresh. And Im not really studying or prepping before going into the each lesson. I just go in relaxed.

Today for the very first time I never once looked at the mares ears, yay! This is no doubt my worst habit Ive had since day one. Im now keeping my chin up and my head perfectly paralell to the ground.

Like I told my trainer, Im just itching to get back into riding shoes and steel toe boots. I know shes not happy about me riding in sandals cause of the huge safety risk but she understands that it wont be much longer (perhaps as early as next week) before I can get back into shoes again. Yes of course riding in sandals suck! Theyre just not very good at all in stirrups and I cant kick for the life of me with them on.

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So she was more concerned over the proximity of her herd versus standing still for you?

Not good.
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So she was more concerned over the proximity of her herd versus standing still for you?

Not good.
I dont know forsure. I think it could have been the camera as well.

Remember, the only time I taught her standing quietly with the lead on the ground was when we were in arenas.
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What do you mean?

Also did you get the video to work? Maybe try it on another device. I just tried it again on my computer and works fine.
I finally got to watch the video....

What I meant, and now confirmed this by the video, is that just because she licks and chews DOES NOT mean she is submitting, and she is NOT. She is one second away from lunging forward with her teeth barred.

There was NO correction for her bad behavior, and then she was still giving you a go to he'll look, and you told her good girl. She is not sore, but bluffing you because you quit, THEN praise her for bluffing you.
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