Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians View Post
I disagree, but only a little bit, with this reasoning. It's not fair to let the mare into your space for petting and attention and then get mad and punish her for bumping you. YOU let HER into YOUR space or vice versa, YOU walked up into HER space before she bumped you. I feel that when you are in her space or have allowed her into your space then YOU need to watch HER body language and movements and it becomes YOUR responsibility to get out of her way when she starts moving. Again, basically you've over stayed your welcome because she's moving off.
But where exactly did I get into her space and over stay my welcome? I dont see it.
I still believe that if any horse is invited in my space, they dont purposely bump into me. She didnt bump me hard, just a small bump.
Now what if she did this while being on a lead? Would you still be okay with it?
My trainer doesnt even let her sniff my hand when shes on a lead. She will back her up. How do you feel about that?
I also have NO problem with a horse "grooming" me back as long as it's not with teeth. Frequently I will offer my palm to a horse I'm scratching, particularly when I get that "favorite scritchy spot" and they are just beside themselves with enjoyment. They are allowed to use their upper lip to "cookie dust" my palm, when they flick that upper lip back and forth across your palm. They're being Horsey Polite by grooming back. I don't allow teeth, ever. And yes, they CAN learn the difference.
Ok but if you let a horse groom you doesnt that increase the chance of getting bit?
Yup, you'll learn to watch and you'll be able to tell when you've almost scritched enough but not quite. She'll still be really enjoying your attention but she'll start to look around and start thinking of moving on. Before she can move on, you give her a quick pat and walk off.
Ok ill try this.
With my foals that are skittish by nature, from birth, I go in to their stalls and I ignore them and pet and groom the dam. Then when they walk up (usually on the other side) and get a drink, I reach around and give a quick scritch on the withers or the bum and take my hand back before they can run. I do it several times a day until they don't get bothered by it anymore. Then I'll stand and pet/scritch for 30 seconds and walk away and do that several times a day. Then I do it longer, and pretty soon that foal is chasing me for attention. My favorite "bad habit" that I deliberately teach them is the butt scritch. I have nails. Their little butts are always itchy under that foal wool. I can freeze a foal in their tracks by scritching their butts and getting the itchy spots. It makes it really handy when you need to catch a baby who isn't halter and lead trained. It's a little bothersome when they come whizzing up to you backwards as big horses, but I figure it's a trade off and the new owner can teach them not to do it if they don't like it.
Oh ok interesting.
The walk in the video is better than the walk in the sandals. Just keep at it and it will become second nature and you'll look a lot more confident, and probably feel it too. Makes you less of a target for bad guys too, they like tentative looking victims.
This is why i try not to wear sandals too much, it makes you lazy. My worst habit is staring at the ground when i walk. Stare at the ground and everything else follows. I do this in real life but this week its all changed, night and day difference. I no longer stare at the ground and look straight ahead. I might come off to some people as a bit of a soldier lol cause my back is so straight and head up, shoulders up, but i dont care. I can tell them Im doing it for my mare and thats the honest truth.