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post #461 of 1323 Old 10-25-2015, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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Linda Tellington, T-Touch......hoof pic, you need her book! I already have this book away, or else. I would send it to you.

Sorry, but. I think you are getting a little "above your raising" criticizing that woman for riding her horse. My horses do not care for a lot of arena work, because *I* do not care for it that much, and they ALL would be trying to bite me if Someone insisted I do what you are doing with your mare....we get on the trail early in training, for my sanity's sake!
Well again, what im doing with my mare is the best for her (having my trainer put some miles on her, I ride her later when trainer feels im ready).
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I have ridden a couple of "finished" horses and not one of them was perfect. They were really really good but every one of them had had time to get really wise to the ways of the show ring and arena. There was one I rode, he'd been a stallion but had SUCH a crappy attitude I told the owner to geld him before I'd even consider taking him on, and he had such a bad reputation that when I showed up a Nationals with him, other trainers were asking my trainer, "WTF! Do you hate your client so much? Why are you letting her ride that PIG?". They weren't aware he'd been gelded and had made almost a complete 180 shift on his attitude. He's now a kid's ride and they're doing great. We sold him for a good piece of change. But he wasn't perfect. Not even close. He was pretty dang nice though! If I'd have had the spare change at the time, I'd have bought him for myself.

The advantage to riding a green horse is that you have no expectations. You know that the horse really doesn't know a whole lot, so when they get upset or give you a "DUH?" look, you just fix it and move on. I'm one who likes to do enough ground work that I know the horse probably (notice probably) won't have a bunch of buck and definitely won't rear and then I like to get on and start working on sweaty blankets. I find I have good results when we go out on trail and work on stuff because they are totally engaged and in the moment because everything is new. I don't recommend that approach for a rider who doesn't have a lot of experience or isn't real confident in their seat. It could be a recipe for disaster.

So, I guess what I'm taking a very long time to say is, do it however you want. It's your horse, it's your time and it's your money to spend how you will. I actually like the idea of you taking lessons on an old school master before riding your green mare, you'll have enough confidence when you finally do that the least little thing she does incorrectly won't have you coming unglued which in turn would unhinge her.
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post #463 of 1323 Old 10-25-2015, 11:15 PM
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As far as the depressed person coming out to see her horse, maybe it's therapy for her. Better than isolating yourself like some depressed people do.
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post #464 of 1323 Old 10-25-2015, 11:29 PM
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At the new barn, I notice and pick up on how other boarders are with their horses.

I kept having this one boarder (lady in her 50s) who just got a mare and brought her there last month (but is leaving soon to another place) to have my trainer ride her. (It seems all she cares about is riding. Every time she sees me, she always asks me "so are you riding your horse today?" Even though ive told her a billion times already that my trainer is riding her and training her some more, I am not riding her any time soon" I remember the first time I told her this, all she kept saying was "I would just ride her"....and I would be like "no shes not finished and i want to have her finished right." She will be like "so...just get on her, thats what I did with my mare"...uhhhhh.

And yes this is what she's done to her mare. She has as little riding experience as I do, her mare is 12 but was JUST broken in like last month, not near being finished yet and yet shes already riding her on her own? lol. See the difference between her and I?

Some people just dont care about the horse from the horses standpoint. She couldnt care less if she messes her up from her inexperience or her possibly not giving her good clear enough ques etc. Shes riding her because she wants to and is clearly putting her wants ahead of whats best for her horse. But I can tell you that her and I are much different in terms of where we stand with horses. All she cares about is riding and if she cant ride, she doesnt come out. Whereas me I care just about every thing in the horse world. Heck Im not even riding my mare and I still want to come out and see her every day.

Its like the barn helper at the old barn who would keep telling me "just ride her, you've taken riding lessons before,....youll be fine." Just mind your own business already. Not everyone is all about them when it comes to their horses. I actually see things much differently in the way that I see things from my horses point of view and I do what is best for her. Do these idiots not believe that I want to ride her? Of course i do! But im doing this for her and whats best for her, not me.

Even at the old barn, at least one person a day would come up to me "so hows your mare doing?"...."did you ride her yet?" or...."have you ridden her yet?" or....."gonna ride her today?" Uhhh so annoying.

Another boarder here has tried to give me advice before, I remember one time when I just moved here I was correcting my mare one time and she came up and kept asking me what I was doing. Its like GTFO, you're distracting me, cant you see im busy?! The last thing I need when correcting my mare is have someone try to butt in. Geez. And here when she goes out to catch her 2 year old colt, she will go up talk to him like if hes a baby and when she needs to correct him she yells at him at the top of her lungs. All she does is stand there and feed him a whole bag of treats. Everytime. She will come out when shes depressed. Uhh ya not the best idea to come see your horse when you are depressed.

Im so glad I have a bit higher standards than these boarders and take the time to read books, see their horses more and focus on things from a different standpoint than them. Now Im not expecting every boarder to have the same level of dedication and drive to learn like I do, but I just have a different mindset than alot of them.
Wow. That's all pretty ignorant.

You have your way of doing things and expect other to "butt out", yet you seem to be quite judgmental of their chosen ways. Everyone has their own methods that they chose to use and work for their horses. I'm not saying these boarders get good results 100% of the time, but neither do you. They are learning just like you are. Yelling at their own horses? Honestly, with one of my mares a good sharp yell is what she needs sometimes, works for her. My other mare doesn't work that way. That's fine.

How do you know that they don't have the dedication or drive to learn? They don't have high standards just because they don't do things your way? Lol.

I'd like to know why you think being sad or "depressed" (whether a person is truly depressed or simply upset, either way) is such an awful idea for being around a horse? I struggle deeply with depression and have for years, my horses honest to god help me through that and always have. I'm positive I am not the only one that struggles with depression and finds that horses help. =/
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Wow. That's all pretty ignorant.

You have your way of doing things and expect other to "butt out", yet you seem to be quite judgmental of their chosen ways. Everyone has their own methods that they chose to use and work for their horses. I'm not saying these boarders get good results 100% of the time, but neither do you. They are learning just like you are. Yelling at their own horses? Honestly, with one of my mares a good sharp yell is what she needs sometimes, works for her. My other mare doesn't work that way. That's fine.

How do you know that they don't have the dedication or drive to learn? They don't have high standards just because they don't do things your way? Lol.

I'd like to know why you think being sad or "depressed" (whether a person is truly depressed or simply upset, either way) is such an awful idea for being around a horse? I struggle deeply with depression and have for years, my horses honest to god help me through that and always have. I'm positive I am not the only one that struggles with depression and finds that horses help. =/
Sorry I didnt mean to come across that way, its just annoying when Im asked the same question all the time.

I was always told that if you are feeling down or depressed, not to come out and be with your horse because they will sense it off you and rub off you.
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Anyways lets just ignore my comments and move on. I didnt mean to offend anyone if i did sorry.
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post #467 of 1323 Old 10-26-2015, 02:36 AM
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Im going to get a kindle reader right now, just a cheap one ($80).

Going to download this book too off amazon, its by Cherry Hill as well. Only $2.99 by download but $29 for the hard copy. wow this pays off for almost half of my reader right there.

For $3 it cant hurt.



I also just downloaded the Long lining exercise book you suggested through kindle. Really want to see it now and just suckered up the extra $10 to have it now on kindle.

Good for you, getting the deal on the combo (book and kindle).

I wouldn't know how to use a kindle, tried an online book one time, but like real pages much better. Plus my eyesight is declining with age, add to that astigmatism, and it is way to fuzzy with the screen lighting and all.

When I was searching for the 101 ... books on eBay I saw the one you bought, but too high priced, I will keep looking for a deal.

I did get a deal though on another, listed at $29.99 with $3.22 shipping. I offered $12 and they accepted. Can't wait for it to get here.



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Good for you, getting the deal on the combo (book and kindle).

I wouldn't know how to use a kindle, tried an online book one time, but like real pages much better. Plus my eyesight is declining with age, add to that astigmatism, and it is way to fuzzy with the screen lighting and all.

When I was searching for the 101 ... books on eBay I saw the one you bought, but too high priced, I will keep looking for a deal.

I did get a deal though on another, listed at $29.99 with $3.22 shipping. I offered $12 and they accepted. Can't wait for it to get here.

Thanks Anna, looking forward to reading them starting tonight. :)

Heres to a great and progressive week. I didnt go out and see my mare yesterday (as much as I wanted to see her and especially with it being a weekend), I felt it was good to give her another day off. It was only the 2nd day since Ive got her that i didnt go visit her.

Just looking at the calendar, my trainer is already starting week 4 as of today with my mares 1 month, 3 times a week riding. Geez does time fly, it felt just like last week that I asked her to start riding her. Weather is holding up so im going to extend the program at 3 times a week for at least another week and perhaps two if weather holds up.
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Instead of dismissing the approaches the other boarders are taking with their horses, try to watch with an open mind. You will learn a lot that way, even if it is what not to do!

Personally though, I'm kind of a fan of the "just get on with it" approach after a certain point. Like others have mentioned, I do enough groundwork to familiarize myself with the horse and its reactions (as best you can without riding), then get on and start with easy rides in the arena and more importantly out in the pasture or on the trail. At a certain point, all the ground work in the world isn't going to prepare you any better for riding - you just have to get on and ride!

That said, its sounds like your approach for your horse is a reasonable one and I hope my post or any of the others haven't made you feel defensive (as you shouldn't). And taking lessons on a more trained horse sounds to me like an excellent decision.
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Instead of dismissing the approaches the other boarders are taking with their horses, try to watch with an open mind. You will learn a lot that way, even if it is what not to do!
I observe everything and anything.

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Personally though, I'm kind of a fan of the "just get on with it" approach after a certain point. Like others have mentioned, I do enough groundwork to familiarize myself with the horse and its reactions (as best you can without riding), then get on and start with easy rides in the arena and more importantly out in the pasture or on the trail. At a certain point, all the ground work in the world isn't going to prepare you any better for riding - you just have to get on and ride!
I know, the time just isnt right now.

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That said, its sounds like your approach for your horse is a reasonable one and I hope my post or any of the others haven't made you feel defensive (as you shouldn't). And taking lessons on a more trained horse sounds to me like an excellent decision.
I dont feel defensive at all.
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