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post #501 of 1323 Old 10-29-2015, 03:29 PM
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Sorry, but previous owner sounds like a bit of an idiot.
Drafty,glad you said what I was thinking. There were a few things in the previous owners description of the "herd" that had me scratching my head. And then some of the things she said when she came out to see the mare...Hoofpic, I think it's safe to say you probably won't sound like an idiot around her. I think you've passed her up in horsey knowledge.

Hoofpic- do you mean free leading, or free lunging in the round pen? If you have already done free leading in an arena, I don't really see the benefit of doing it in a round pen. Free lunging on the other hand could be very beneficial for you (and possibly her) if you are not riding her yet.
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I do not remember, but you can google it. It was a woman, and I believe at one time she had a whole website devoted to it.
Ok ill keep trying. No luck so far. I just look up horse trick books and its far too general. But at least now I know its by a female author
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Drafty,glad you said what I was thinking. There were a few things in the previous owners description of the "herd" that had me scratching my head.
Just curious. What comments were they exactly?

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And then some of the things she said when she came out to see the mare...
Like when she said my mare is just upset at her for leaving her.

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Hoofpic, I think it's safe to say you probably won't sound like an idiot around her. I think you've passed her up in horsey knowledge.
Not sure if Ive passed her in knowledge, I do still believe she knows her stuff in the horse world, but just a lot different opinions than me.

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Hoofpic- do you mean free leading, or free lunging in the round pen? If you have already done free leading in an arena, I don't really see the benefit of doing it in a round pen. Free lunging on the other hand could be very beneficial for you (and possibly her) if you are not riding her yet.
Someone here awhile back mentioned free leading my mare in the roundpen.

But yes I have free lunged her before in the round pen (which free lunging in the roundpen is pretty much roundpenning right?). Or did you mean free lunge her in the arena?

Now this is something I dont think Im ready for yet since its pretty much in the Liberty training territory. But I would love to do this!
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Get rid of the term 'roundpenning' what does that even mean? A round pen is a place... A pen that is round. Lots of different things can be accomplished in a round pen.
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Ok ill keep trying. No luck so far. I just look up horse trick books and its far too general. But at least now I know its by a female author
Her name is Carole Fletcher. She used to do a show on RFD-TV.
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http://www.amazon.com/Trick-Training.../dp/1581501102

This is an excellent book about trick training.

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Her name is Carole Fletcher. She used to do a show on RFD-TV.
Thanks! How did you find this out?


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http://www.amazon.com/Trick-Training.../dp/1581501102

This is an excellent book about trick training.
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I was so tired after work tonight and was going to take the night off from seeing my mare but I decided I would still go. Im sure glad I ended up going. When I arrived she was in the area right next to the herd again and I spent a couple hours with her there just hanging out. I didnt handle her, didnt ask of anything from her. When shes in this area right next to the herd I want her to spend as much time as possible with the other horses so she can get more acquanted and comfortable being around them.

I love watching horses communicate with each other. I just sat back for 2 hours and watched and observed. I was going to read but I wanted to watch the herd tonight.

She still hasnt drank out of the auto waterer (and according to the BO), but the BO said that she was put out in the morning and noticed that she would go up close to the auto waterer from time to time when the other horses werent near it. So it sounds to me like a couple possibilities on why shes not drinking from it (even though according the previous owner from last nighht, she has drank from them before).

I checked and the auto waterer is NOT the lever type, its the one where its like a water trough.

1) She feels a bit uncomfortable attempting to stick her head in when other horses are hovered right around it. And its horses she doesnt know. If she knew them, im sure she would be comfortable with sticking her head in.

2) The sound it makes as more water comes into it. I noticed tonight she would watch when another horse drinks from it and then she would walk up close to it and look at it and observe, and I think she wanted to go ahead and drink from it but didnt attempt to. So its obvious that she knows what it is and how to get water.

I was going to put her back in her paddock so she could have her dinner and for the night but the BO came and fed her dinner in the area right next to the herd so shes spending the night there and tomorrow! YAY im so happy! Spending the night next to the herd should really help.

She seemed to be getting more comfortable around the horses but im not sure on those two geldings in the herd. One keeps rushing my mare along the gate and seems a bit aggressive. He will dash up to the gate at full speed. The other gelding is pretty nice. I think my mare is bit intimidated when all 3 are lined up at the fence looking at her and wanting to sniff her. She will walk away and create some distance. Also doesnt help when shes the smallest, the others are all 15hh.

Im not saying that the BO is going to put her in the herd tomorrow or the next day but I can tell shes getting closer. Its obvious what the BOs plan was and that was to have her spend time here and there next to the herd and not just a one time thing, then into the herd she goes. He is obviously taking full precaution in going about it so nothing bad happens. And slowly easing her in. This is probably the best and safest approach in going about it and Im glad hes letting her stay the night there tonight and good chance tomorrow as well.

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Hoofpic, you, someone else, and I can get rid of the term 'roundpenning' in our vocabulary but it isn't going to make it go away. It has wormed it's way in.

So were are stuck with it, and just have to differentiate it individually.

I do think roundpenning is not the same as working in a round pen. Nor is it the same as free lunging.

Not quite sure what it is either, but have come to think of it as a poor rendition of Monty Robert's join up. haha

Or else, even worse, that it might be used as punishment.
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The comments about the herd that I found interesting were:

"When she was introduced, she was still young enough that no one was very mean to her, but just let her know that she was bottom of the pack." Then at the end of the description she says, "with aging horses soon to be top dog."

Now, I'm not saying she's wrong and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with her. There is a lot about herd dynamics that I don't know. But I look at my own herd. I have a 6 year old, a 10-15 year old and a 27 year old- all mares. The 6 YO is the top dog and my 27 YO is the bottom. Granted, it's a very small herd, but it is the exact opposite as what she described.

And yes, when he said your mare was just upset for leaving her...

She definitely has you on experience, but give yourself some credit it the amount you have learned in such a short time.

And I agree with the others about the term "roundpenning." I believe you can accomplish the same things in an arena that you can accomplish in a round pen and vice versa. I think a round pen can be a useful tool, but it's not necessary for training.
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