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post #511 of 1323 Old 10-30-2015, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Hoofpic, you, someone else, and I can get rid of the term 'roundpenning' in our vocabulary but it isn't going to make it go away. It has wormed it's way in.

So were are stuck with it, and just have to differentiate it individually.

I do think roundpenning is not the same as working in a round pen. Nor is it the same as free lunging.

Not quite sure what it is either, but have come to think of it as a poor rendition of Monty Robert's join up. haha

Or else, even worse, that it might be used as punishment.
Good point thanks. Lets think of the roundpen as just an alternative to the arena and you can do many things in it other than free lunging. Cause technically there is no such thing as roundpenning a horse, it would be free lunging IN a roundpen.
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The comments about the herd that I found interesting were:

"When she was introduced, she was still young enough that no one was very mean to her, but just let her know that she was bottom of the pack." Then at the end of the description she says, "with aging horses soon to be top dog."
Oh yes, this caught my attention as well. She made it sound like oldest horses are always the leader simply based on their age which I already knew is 100% not true. It all comes down to their personalities and breed, color, etc.

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Now, I'm not saying she's wrong and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with her. There is a lot about herd dynamics that I don't know. But I look at my own herd. I have a 6 year old, a 10-15 year old and a 27 year old- all mares. The 6 YO is the top dog and my 27 YO is the bottom. Granted, it's a very small herd, but it is the exact opposite as what she described.
Ive observed a lot at the old barn and from what I noticed there it was always the most dominant horse of the herd that is the leader.


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She definitely has you on experience, but give yourself some credit it the amount you have learned in such a short time.
Thats true. ANd I dont know how many years shes been working with horses (from the sounds of it, just about all her life), but her and I have different approaches. For instance, she doesnt know Im reading books.

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And I agree with the others about the term "roundpenning." I believe you can accomplish the same things in an arena that you can accomplish in a round pen and vice versa. I think a round pen can be a useful tool, but it's not necessary for training.
Well said.
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Got a question for everyone.

Is there a way to make my mare more comfortable with me petting her on her nose and chin? She wont bite if you do it but shes never been crazy about peoples hands on her nose, chin and muzzle. I could run the back of my finger softly along her nose and she will pull back a bit.
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Got a question for everyone.

Is there a way to make my mare more comfortable with me petting her on her nose and chin? She wont bite if you do it but shes never been crazy about peoples hands on her nose, chin and muzzle. I could run the back of my finger softly along her nose and she will pull back a bit.
Mine doesn't either, especially if people come at him straight on. he can't see their hands. If a person strokes under his chin and then moves their hand around to the the muzzle he is fine.

To me it is no big deal. I really don't want people stroking my nose either.....lol...as long as you can halter and bridle, what difference does it make?
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I took the aging horses comment as they won't be around much longer. Making him top dog
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Got a question for everyone.

Is there a way to make my mare more comfortable with me petting her on her nose and chin? She wont bite if you do it but shes never been crazy about peoples hands on her nose, chin and muzzle. I could run the back of my finger softly along her nose and she will pull back a bit.
Would you like it?
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Would you like it?
No. I guess Ive just watched too many videos where you see the owner rubbing their horses head all over and even pulling it into them to give them hugs.

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Mine doesn't either, especially if people come at him straight on. he can't see their hands. If a person strokes under his chin and then moves their hand around to the the muzzle he is fine.

To me it is no big deal. I really don't want people stroking my nose either.....lol...as long as you can halter and bridle, what difference does it make?
Well I usually only do it after she sniffs the back of my hand. I will first try to rub the back of my finger on her nose and she will shy away. Sometimes she doesnt mind having her chin rubbed. But all I know is that she is very sensitive around the mouth and inside opening up. According to the vet who did saw her that one time and had to stick a tube down her throat after sedating her, said on my mare, she doesnt like when someone goes right for her mouth. So you need to give attn to her nose first then jaw.

I do know that she does like having a wet towel rubbed against her front teeth and along her inside gums. I know this may sound like the most ludricous thing to do with your horse (seeing how you should never stick your fingers in their mouth unless nessecary).

At the old barn, the barn helper was showing me how to wash her cuts on her face when she had them a couple months ago and she said "stick a wet towel in her mouth and run it just along her front teeth!" She did it and my mare quite liked it. Barn helper said I should do it more often but I wasnt sold on sticking my fingers in my mares mouth for something "just for fun" like this.

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Different horses have different "sweet spots" where they like to be rubbed/scratched, and spots where they do not. Even though YOU want to rub her nose, if she doesn't like it why not find her "sweet spots" and give her affection the way she likes it?
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Different horses have different "sweet spots" where they like to be rubbed/scratched, and spots where they do not. Even though YOU want to rub her nose, if she doesn't like it why not find her "sweet spots" and give her affection the way she likes it?
I looked into this when I bought her and according to the previous owner she doesnt have a sweet spot, she likes it anywhere lol.

Im not sure if I agree with that as Ive noticed from the time having her that she loves having her butt scratched and her withers and under her mane and on her poll right behind her ears.

I think its pretty common though for horses to love those spots especially the withers and poll right behind their ears.
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My gelding will rub his nose in my hand. The difference is, I never try to force him to do it. I just hold my hand out and he'll push his nose into it and rub. He loves to twitch his lip in my hand, too. I think it gets his itchy spots on his nose, since it sunburns so easily.
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