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post #651 of 1323 Old 11-07-2015, 02:08 PM Thread Starter
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A couple of boarders I know have hay bale bags (people use them to bring hay to shows, etc) that they use to bring/store hay I for their horses. They like to feed a timothy mix in addition to the native grass hay that is provided by my barn. They buy the bales one at a time at the local feed store and keep the bale in their car trunks in the hay bag. If you want to be sure she is not missing out on any hay by visiting her during her feeding time, maybe you could do the same so she would have hay. Maybe the BO could be convinced to give you a bale at a time to keep if he knows you are going to feed part of it every day to your mare when she would normally be eating with the other horses. If not, just find hay somewhere else. Just an idea and probably cheaper per pound than pellets or cubes.
I just picked up a couple 20kg bags of grass hay cubes (Timothy and Alfalfa 50/50) as they didnt have any ones without Alfalfa. But she should be okay with the 50% afalfa in it since she wont be eating a lot of it anyways.

I have large plastic tokes that i use to store her food in and picked up another one for her cubes. It fits two 20kg bags and still has room to spare, its great.

As for the vitamin supplements, well when I was picking up the cubes the lady gave me pricing on their mineral pales and its pretty much identical to the 20kg bag of Hoffman minerals i have sitting in the barn (which she touched once and wont lick them)

I didnt want to waste $94 on getting another pale, only to find out shes not going to lick them. So what im going to try is soak the cubes a bit and put a small scoop of hoffman minerals in it, mix it. See if she will eat it. If so, ill stick with the hoffmans as I still have a 20kg bag sitting around, but if not then ill have to look into something else.

She very well might not take any vitamin supplements in powder form. Shes not crazy about the taste so ill see if i can mix the hoffmans in with her cubes and if it makes any difference.

Before I would just put it on top of her grain and mix it. SHe will eat it if the minerals are very noticable but if she can see it or see any powder coming up, she wont touch it.

It will suck if im not able to get her to take in any vitamin and minerals in the winters. Im sure she will be ok but again, vitamins get depleted in the hay in extreme cold temps, so the minerals helps replenish that.

(I know I shouldnt care) but I just hope I dont get the BO or my trainer questioning why im feeding her hay cubes when she already is getting hay from them twice a day. I will tell them, its because i want to give her minerals in the winters and the hay cubes (because she isnt on grain anymore) is a way to distribute the minerals to her.

Im sure they will ask why I feel she needs hay cubes when not a single horse there gets them.

So let me ask, for those here who feed their horse hay cubes, what is your reason on feeding them to your horse?
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I think they meant so YOU did not go running out to rescue her if it looked like one of the other horses was being mean....
Hmm im not sure. I took it as in let her be a horse and let her be left alone for a couple days will getting settled in the herd. Not to interact with her because im disrupting the herd.
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The hay bag------ IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION to take or leave. I stated such. You are worried about hay cubes, soaking hay cubes, getting pellets, what kind of pellets, will she choke, the BO not wanting you to pull hay off his bales, etc etc etc etc etc. It was just a suggestion. You don't have to defend or justify what you decided to do, I was only giving a suggestion.
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The hay bag------ IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION to take or leave. I stated such. You are worried about hay cubes, soaking hay cubes, getting pellets, what kind of pellets, will she choke, the BO not wanting you to pull hay off his bales, etc etc etc etc etc. It was just a suggestion. You don't have to defend or justify what you decided to do, I was only giving a suggestion.
Dont worry, I wasnt getting upset and I thank you for the suggestion cause now when I come to think of it, I might actually do this. Cause if I keep her cubes in my trunk, then I can even prep it and soak them if i wanted before heading to the barn and by the time i get there, she can eat it right away.

The bag is an interesting idea whats forsure. But im guessing most probably dont keep it in their car trunk. Or do they?

I dont think its that out of the question. One of the boarders has all her horses grooming stuff in a foldable tock and keeps it in her trunk all the time and just brings it out with her.

Does anyone here keep any horse stuff in their car?
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I suggested you just leave her be for a few days, and I see you are doing that. I meant exactly that, just let her be a horse and get to know the other horses for a few days, without you doing anything with her. The reason I suggested it was, kind of like your little kid just going to nursery school or kindergarten for the first time. If mommy will just spend drop the kid off and go on, the kid settles in quickly. If mommy is there all the time, even if she doesn't do anything but watch, the kid knows she's there and finds a reason to think it's because they're in a bad place and they won't settle. Same thing when kids go to the Dr., if mom goes in the office the kid frequently throws an almighty fit. If mom stays out in the waiting room the kid tends to cooperate and not fuss. Same logic for the horse.

For the hay cubes, if you use them and soak them you can hide all manner of things in them. She may not like them at first, but I'm thinking that if you pull her out and put her in a paddock with nothing else, she'll eat them and pretty soon they'll be a big treat. I'd soak them and make them a little soupy but not downing, and don't add anything at first. Just let her get used to the hay cubes. Then in a week or 2, once she decides they're good stuff, then add the minerals, she'll be fine with that because the supplement will dissolve in the water and she won't notice. When you add the supplement, do it a little at a time. For instance if it calls for feeding 2 oz of supplement, then start with about 1/2 oz and work up over a few days. Horses are very suspicious of change, so anything you do at first will be questionable.

I doubt the BO will say much of anything if you're only feeding her hay cubes as a treat, not as a major meal, but just tell him you're hiding her vits & mins in them.

As for horse stuff in the car, let's see. I currently have a western show bridle, romal reins, riding boots, 2 different sets of spurs, a helmet and 2 horse barn jackets in the back seat of my truck. So, yep, never leave home without 'em.
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I suggested you just leave her be for a few days, and I see you are doing that. I meant exactly that, just let her be a horse and get to know the other horses for a few days, without you doing anything with her. The reason I suggested it was, kind of like your little kid just going to nursery school or kindergarten for the first time. If mommy will just spend drop the kid off and go on, the kid settles in quickly. If mommy is there all the time, even if she doesn't do anything but watch, the kid knows she's there and finds a reason to think it's because they're in a bad place and they won't settle. Same thing when kids go to the Dr., if mom goes in the office the kid frequently throws an almighty fit. If mom stays out in the waiting room the kid tends to cooperate and not fuss. Same logic for the horse.

For the hay cubes, if you use them and soak them you can hide all manner of things in them. She may not like them at first, but I'm thinking that if you pull her out and put her in a paddock with nothing else, she'll eat them and pretty soon they'll be a big treat. I'd soak them and make them a little soupy but not downing, and don't add anything at first. Just let her get used to the hay cubes. Then in a week or 2, once she decides they're good stuff, then add the minerals, she'll be fine with that because the supplement will dissolve in the water and she won't notice. When you add the supplement, do it a little at a time. For instance if it calls for feeding 2 oz of supplement, then start with about 1/2 oz and work up over a few days. Horses are very suspicious of change, so anything you do at first will be questionable.

I doubt the BO will say much of anything if you're only feeding her hay cubes as a treat, not as a major meal, but just tell him you're hiding her vits & mins in them.

As for horse stuff in the car, let's see. I currently have a western show bridle, romal reins, riding boots, 2 different sets of spurs, a helmet and 2 horse barn jackets in the back seat of my truck. So, yep, never leave home without 'em.
Thanks, I had a feeling that was you who suggested I dont do anything with her for a few days.

But i have a riding lesson in a few hours and heading to the barn shortly. I was hoping to bring her into the barn today and groom her. Do you think i should give her another day today of not interacting with her? I hate to say it, but I miss her. The past couple days is the first time since ive had her that i went 2 days in a row without seeing her.

For the hay cubes, good points, yes thats what i was planning on doing, adding a bit of minerals at first then up it as time goes on. But you are right, best to feed her the cubes as is first so she can get used to them.

Im guessing these cubes arent all that tasty for horses? Is it an acquired taste?

Im definitely considering keeping her cubes in my car. The fact i can soak them and prep them before heading to the barn will be really benefit me when its -20 outside. This way i can put in warm water and i dont have to tinker with frozen outdoor hoses and mixing and letting it sit when I can just prep it before and by the time i get there, i can bring her in and she can eat.

As a matter of fact this is what my ex did in the winters (actually she did it all year round). She kept her horses sweet feed and grain in her trunk all the time, as well as buckets and stir sticks, supplments etc. In the winter, she wouldnt work her horses but she would go out just to feed them sweet feed.

The only time when im going to feed her the cubes is when I have her in the barn tied up, while i brush or groom her. Obviously i wont be doing it in the field.

I also picked up a headlamp today with adjustable levels of brightness. Im guessing this is probably something i will have to get her comfortable with before throwing on my head all of a sudden. But I expect to be using this a lot, this winter.

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I wasn't worried. I am frustrated.

There is no rule about keeping horse stuff in your car. Unless you have weird laws in your state.
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I wasn't worried. I am frustrated.

There is no rule about keeping horse stuff in your car. Unless you have weird laws in your state.
Sorry I didnt mean to frustrate you. I take all the advice given here seriously.
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I just got here, driving down the road and she was hanging out with her herdmates!!!!! Im so happy and relieved!!! Was hoping she wouldnt see me but she did, she reconized my car from coming down the road and immediately started walking up to the front.

Ah i was planning on not handling her today but now that shes seen me, i feel obligated to now.
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Much different today from wed when i last saw her
Very glad i took the last couple days off from seeing her.thank you dream.

It looks like she has moved up ahead of the fillie.Just saw her pinning her ears and attempt to bite her. Good for her!
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