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Ever seen what the Mustangs run across? Or a cow pony rounding up cows? Or an endurance horse going up and over cougar rock?
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Leave the rocks alone. You have bigger things to worry about concerning your mare than rocks in a pasture.
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Ever seen what the Mustangs run across? Or a cow pony rounding up cows? Or an endurance horse going up and over cougar rock?
no i havent.

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Leave the rocks alone. You have bigger things to worry about concerning your mare than rocks in a pasture.
Ok ill leave it.
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Go on YouTube a look up videos of the Tevis and cougar rock. It will rock your world! Amazing.
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I think today went pretty good. After handling her pretty much everyday since I got her, except for a day here and there, it felt a bit wierd handling her today for the very first time after 3 full days without handling her or seeing her. Wierd in a good way? Not sure for me but for her Im sure it only benefited her. In fact I truly believe giving her those 3 full days of not interacting with her, helped her immensely in her meshing in with the herd.

Its a night and day difference from Wed night.

I know its still early but today she did not try to speed up while leading and lead away from me willingly, I was very pleased with her.

Once I caught her (which was easy, she didnt resist), her herd mates all tried to come up but I used my carrot stick to keep them at a distance. I didnt have to be aggresive with it really, I just showed them to stick , stuck it out and they knew. Ever since the first day of me in there where they were all wanting to crowd us, they have been listening to me and respecting my space now. Even when I back up the gate, they back up.

I took her out and all 3 were good and stayed back. They still followed us up to the gate, which I think is normal.

When I took her out, all 3 lined up and were calling for her. Now Im not 100% sure, but Im almost certain the 3 are herd bound because from what ive noticed before putting my mare in that herd is whenever one of the 3 would go out, the other 2 would be constantly calling for them until they saw the other one come back. That horse could be out for 2mins or 2 hours and they will constantly call. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing.

I dont want my mare to get herd bound but I do believe that she will get quite attached to her herd and very quickly. Previous owner told me this.

Anyways, they all were watching along the fence and calling for my mare to come back as I took her into the barn. My mare was calling out to the other horses on the way. Once I opened the barn door and brought her in, she called to them as well. She was very vocal today. Is that a good or bad thing?

Groomed her and cleaned her cuts and bite and (on the way to the barn) I put some hay cubes into a pale for her and soaked them for about 30mins and mashed them up. Boy are these cubes ever rock hard! But soaking and mashing them after makes them soft. I had to add quite a bit of water.

When I went to catch her, I caught her and gave her a cube to see how she would react. She sniffed it a bit and didnt think she would take it but she did. She chewed and chewed and I could tell it wasnt like eating a cookie. Its very dry and takes time to chew it.

I put maybe 30 cubes in the pale and thought it was too much, so i took some out and gave her about 20. Even that is probably a lot for the first time her eating it.

She ate them and seemed fine with them. I probably could have added more water.

I need to find a better way of feeding this stuff to her (as in finding a pail big enough for her to get her head inside without the handle being in the way). I picked up teh largest pale the store had yesterday and used one of my extra leads to tie it against one of the vertical wood posts in the barn. This is the only way to feed her cause I dont want to be feeding her it with the pale on the ground, as I never tie her with enough slack in her lead that she can put her head all the way to the ground (for safety reasons in case she gets the lead tangled up with her legs). And she isnt tall enough to have her head reach the bucket, if I was to use one of those buckets where you hang it off a fence haha.

I dont really want to have to hold the bucket for her while she eats, but if i dont have any other options I will.

Even when I ran out for the barn a couple times to get water from the hose, her herd mates were all still lined up at the fence with their heads up, ears up and calling for her lol.

When I finally walked her back, they all were getting quite excited. I was able to put her in no problem and they didnt crowd us. Let my mare go and off they went again following each other.

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Ah why is my video so blurry? I used my own camera and the video footage quality is unreal but on youtube it looks like crap.
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She's so cute. Getting her winter coat in and all fluffy and snuggly looking. None of mine ever get as much coast as she has now. That's part of living down south I guess.

Anyhoo, the hollering is a pet peeve of mine because some stallions are screamers and I bought one. He drove me crazy for about 4 months which is how long it took me to sell him. I teach my horses and especially my boys, "NO talking". They know what it means and I teach it from when they're small. Once they start yelling, it can be difficult to break them of it.

Again, personal pet peeve of mine, if you don't care then I wouldn't worry about it.

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She's so cute. Getting her winter coat in and all fluffy and snuggly looking. None of mine ever get as much coast as she has now. That's part of living down south I guess.

Anyhoo, the hollering is a pet peeve of mine because some stallions are screamers and I bought one. He drove me crazy for about 4 months which is how long it took me to sell him. I teach my horses and especially my boys, "NO talking". They know what it means and I teach it from when they're small. Once they start yelling, it can be difficult to break them of it.

Again, personal pet peeve of mine, if you don't care then I wouldn't worry about it.
Thanks, yes her coat is thick and furry and her legs are getting fuzzy. She is a barn favourite, people are always asking how she is, even asking my trainer how shes doing. Everyone loves her, I get a lot of people commenting on her.

A friend of mine says I must correct my mare for calling out while Im working with her - that's her being inattentive, she must mind me while she's with me not the rest of the herd.

Is this true? If so, how would you correct her?

Im not sure if that fillie is actually 10years old. Just by looking at her up close, she looks very young. My mare does boss her around, already caught my mare twice pinning her ears back and making the gesture to bite her. She did it today as I was about to halter her. From what Ive seen so far, that fillie submits to my mare everytime. But the BO also said she is very submissive and never resists.

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Thanks, yes her coat is thick and furry and her legs are getting fuzzy.

A friend of mine says I must correct my mare for calling out while Im working with her - that's her being inattentive, she must mind me while she's with me not the rest of the herd.

Is this true? If so, how would you correct her?
That's one of those, if you start it you have to be very consistent and get after her every single time she starts to holler. It's a lot of work and timing. With my boys, as soon as one of them sucks in breath, I say, "NO TALKING" very firmly. If they holler anyhow, I get after them with the end of the lead rope and I shank them backwards until they get totally focused on me. It is inattention and in a stallion's case especially, it's very disrespectful because they are totally tuning you out. Mares and geldings tend not to be as obnoxious about it as stallions, but if they get in the habit, it's not easy to correct. It's kind of a form of being herd bound, inattentive, insecure, all those negative traits we try to train away from.

Just read the part about your mare pinning ears and offering to bite the other horse while you were about to work with her. That is absolutely not to be tolerated because in the extreme it can get you hurt. If your mare pins ears, gapes her mouth at another horse who won't back down, they in turn can turn tail and lash out with both feet, nailing you and not your mare. Ask me how I know that. Yeah, not fun. I was black and blue from my hip bones to my collar bones. Never made the mistake of letting that one slide again, I promise you.

Remember how I told you most of us learn? Yep, by being stupid and getting hurt. The good news is, most of us will live to tell others not to make the same mistakes we've made.
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That's one of those, if you start it you have to be very consistent and get after her every single time she starts to holler. It's a lot of work and timing. With my boys, as soon as one of them sucks in breath, I say, "NO TALKING" very firmly. If they holler anyhow, I get after them with the end of the lead rope and I shank them backwards until they get totally focused on me. It is inattention and in a stallion's case especially, it's very disrespectful because they are totally tuning you out. Mares and geldings tend not to be as obnoxious about it as stallions, but if they get in the habit, it's not easy to correct. It's kind of a form of being herd bound, inattentive, insecure, all those negative traits we try to train away from.

Just read the part about your mare pinning ears and offering to bite the other horse while you were about to work with her. That is absolutely not to be tolerated because in the extreme it can get you hurt. If your mare pins ears, gapes her mouth at another horse who won't back down, they in turn can turn tail and lash out with both feet, nailing you and not your mare. Ask me how I know that. Yeah, not fun. I was black and blue from my hip bones to my collar bones. Never made the mistake of letting that one slide again, I promise you.

Remember how I told you most of us learn? Yep, by being stupid and getting hurt. The good news is, most of us will live to tell others not to make the same mistakes we've made.
I had a good feeling that I should not be allowing her to pin her ears at another horse while im with her but i didnt know how to correct her for it. I have the carrot stick with me and it goes under my arm while I halter her. Do I give her a sharp tap on her muzzle as she tries to bite another horse?

She actually normally doesnt call out to other horses when I lead her. The first few nights when we first moved there though were the worst, as she was constantly calling out while being tied in the barn. She doesnt do it anymore though, she stopped about a week or so after as she was getting more comfortable.

At first, when she was calling out today while leading her, I immediately thought she was doing it because she hadnt been out of her field for a few days and shes seeing new horses for a change.

From what Ive seen so far, that fillie submits to my mare everytime. But the BO also said she is very submissive and never resists. Shes actually very cute, though she was nippy the first time I went in there, she isnt anymore cause she learned fast after I corrected her for it. The buckskin saw that the fillie was trying to get nippy so he tried to as well. I corrected the fillie, then the buckskin and they both learned. They still like to follow me and come say hi when I enter the field but they give me my space now.

Even though the buckskin is the leader of the herd, he is a bit submissive according to the BO and the chestnut (Fred) is the one who takes action. You can see in the video, theres even times where the leader, the fillie AND the buckskin will be following my mare around. I thought at times, perhaps my mare moved above him as well but i dont think so cause when they all get fed, both the geldings will chase my mare away and my mare will stay back and wait to be fed.

I think my mare sees how submissive the fillie is and is taking advantage of it.

The concern I have is my mare going to start to become distant from me cause shes in a herd now? Before she wasnt in a herd, so I was her herd.

Yes the good thing is that when Im not there, her herd will keep her in line. But I dont want her thinking now that shes moved up on the fillie and bosses her around that she thinks she has more power and confidence in being an even more dominant first horse - cause she is very much a dominant horse.

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