Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians View Post
That's one of those, if you start it you have to be very consistent and get after her every single time she starts to holler. It's a lot of work and timing. With my boys, as soon as one of them sucks in breath, I say, "NO TALKING" very firmly. If they holler anyhow, I get after them with the end of the lead rope and I shank them backwards until they get totally focused on me. It is inattention and in a stallion's case especially, it's very disrespectful because they are totally tuning you out. Mares and geldings tend not to be as obnoxious about it as stallions, but if they get in the habit, it's not easy to correct. It's kind of a form of being herd bound, inattentive, insecure, all those negative traits we try to train away from.
Just read the part about your mare pinning ears and offering to bite the other horse while you were about to work with her. That is absolutely not to be tolerated because in the extreme it can get you hurt. If your mare pins ears, gapes her mouth at another horse who won't back down, they in turn can turn tail and lash out with both feet, nailing you and not your mare. Ask me how I know that. Yeah, not fun. I was black and blue from my hip bones to my collar bones. Never made the mistake of letting that one slide again, I promise you.
Remember how I told you most of us learn? Yep, by being stupid and getting hurt. The good news is, most of us will live to tell others not to make the same mistakes we've made.
I had a good feeling that I should not be allowing her to pin her ears at another horse while im with her but i didnt know how to correct her for it. I have the carrot stick with me and it goes under my arm while I halter her. Do I give her a sharp tap on her muzzle as she tries to bite another horse?
She actually normally doesnt call out to other horses when I lead her. The first few nights when we first moved there though were the worst, as she was constantly calling out while being tied in the barn. She doesnt do it anymore though, she stopped about a week or so after as she was getting more comfortable.
At first, when she was calling out today while leading her, I immediately thought she was doing it because she hadnt been out of her field for a few days and shes seeing new horses for a change.
From what Ive seen so far, that fillie submits to my mare everytime. But the BO also said she is very submissive and never resists. Shes actually very cute, though she was nippy the first time I went in there, she isnt anymore cause she learned fast after I corrected her for it. The buckskin saw that the fillie was trying to get nippy so he tried to as well. I corrected the fillie, then the buckskin and they both learned. They still like to follow me and come say hi when I enter the field but they give me my space now.
Even though the buckskin is the leader of the herd, he is a bit submissive according to the BO and the chestnut (Fred) is the one who takes action. You can see in the video, theres even times where the leader, the fillie AND the buckskin will be following my mare around. I thought at times, perhaps my mare moved above him as well but i dont think so cause when they all get fed, both the geldings will chase my mare away and my mare will stay back and wait to be fed.
I think my mare sees how submissive the fillie is and is taking advantage of it.
The concern I have is my mare going to start to become distant from me cause shes in a herd now? Before she wasnt in a herd, so I was her herd.
Yes the good thing is that when Im not there, her herd will keep her in line. But I dont want her thinking now that shes moved up on the fillie and bosses her around that she thinks she has more power and confidence in being an even more dominant first horse - cause she is very much a dominant horse.