Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians View Post
Horses are touchy about their hineys. I don't think I'd spend as much time with the "Here it comes. It's gonna be cold. Are you ready for it?" as you do, but in that case it's not wrong. Especially around her hiney, where you can get a good, swift kick, it pays to be vigilant and considerate.
But....and it's the BUT part that drives my answer. BUT, she's testing you and moving away from you when you want her foot. It's not allowed. It's kind of like telling a little kid that you're about to give a shot that you're going to give him a shot in the butt and he knows it's going to sting. Then you say, "Heeeeeere it comes." and wonder why the needle ended up in the exam table, he jumped out of the way. You're telling her, "Heeeere it comes and if you want to test me and make me move my feet, here's your chance.". Remember, He who moves his feet first LOSES. So by putting her up against a wall and cutting off her escape route, then just reaching down and taking her foot, you're telling her, "I'm wise to your tricks and by the way, that's MY foot and I'll pick it up if I want to.". The herd leader tells her, "That's MY grain bucket, they're all MY grain buckets and you'll only eat when I say you can.". She won't make a peep at him because she'll either get bit, kicked or run out of the herd if she dares. You have to be herd leader, always, 100% of the time. Yes, it's a partnership but it isn't 50/50.
Oh ok I get it.
So basically you are saying is, when I clean her bites and cuts, do the same as if i was picking up her foot and put her up against the wall?
Im not the least bit surprised that me getting over to her other side and moving her back to where she stepped from doesnt work, because I used this same method when i was tryin to get her to stop shifting when I would do anything with her tied. I do think it has worked and paid off in getting her to stand tied but my god, it took months, not weeks of doing this every single time, but months!
Anything - brushing her, brushing her mane, tail, etc...when I first got her she would constantly move back and fourth left to right, right to left, constant, non stop. It took ages to get stuff done with her cause i would spend most of the time moving her back to where she was. I did this every single time when she was tied. Thankfully when i left the old barn, she was significantly better, night and day. Didnt shift over nearly as much and for the most part stood tied well.
When we got to the new barn, I felt we were back to day 1 when I first got her. She was all shifty again, non stop. But a couple weeks of correcting her and her settling in and getting familiar with the barn really helped. She now is really good in standing tied. Not perfect (but i cant expect perfect) but compared to before she is like a different horse.
She will do this to anyone though. Even when my trainer rides her and has her tied. My mare will test her by stepping into her. I had a boarder a few weeks ago stand next to her while we were talking. My mare stepped into her. She's cheeky lol. Shes so smart its not even funny. She goes about it so discreetly lol.
So I will start putting her up against the wall for now on. When do you think i can eventually work her away from the wall?