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post #911 of 1323 Old 11-19-2015, 02:46 PM
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Pick up her foot and hold it. If she tries to paw hold it as best you can until she quits then clean her foot. No reward, very business like. She will learn that she keeps it up until you set it down. Repetition is what teaches. This will give her a clear idea of what you want her to do. It will take maybe more than a few times so be patient and don't quit. After doing this 3 times, take her for a short walk then ask again.



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Just a thought, but have you picked up the feet of trained horses? Has anyone shown you how? Has your mare ever had her feet trimmed? Was she OK for the farrier but you have a harder time?
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What if you catch her when you think she is about to paw and hold it for a second, rewarding her by putting it down when she relaxes? Then you reward the holding it, not the pawing. Are you able to do that? Can you hold on? If she is pawing to avoid you picking up her foot, what better way to foil her idea?
Yes I can hold on when she tries to paw. But if she goes to paw, and as her foot lifts up, I go to grab and hold it. Release when she relaxes. Wouldnt that tell her that Im teaching her not to paw? Hence the holding the foot, so she cant paw. Maybe Im out to lunch on this one...

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If you hold her foot up, do it until she relaxes, then put it down. Even if it is only one second. The reward should be immediate.
I always reward immediately. Always.

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Gradually, over time, increase the time you hold it, letting it down for the reward when she relaxes. She will soon get used to it, trust you, and fall asleep while you are cleaning her hoof.
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I don't tap the leg first and run my hand down. I just reach down to the point where I want to hold it and she just picks it up. Maybe you are giving too long of a cue.
Not sure but Im quick with it and from tapping to running my hand down from her knee is pretty seemless in transition.
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Just a thought, but have you picked up the feet of trained horses? Has anyone shown you how?
Yes many times and yes.

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Has your mare ever had her feet trimmed? Was she OK for the farrier but you have a harder time?
Yes and yes. Though the first farrier she used (only twice) months ago, she wouldnt hold up her feet at all. She kept trying to pull away and the farrier walloped her real hard on her belly with the handle of his tool. But with the current farrier, Im amazed how well she stands for him.
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If she picks up and stands better for the farrier than you, that tells you something.
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If she picks up and stands better for the farrier than you, that tells you something.
I know. Once I get her through this, hoping she is better in picking up and more importantly holding her feet up.

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Grab her foot when she lifts it to paw, and pretend that is what you want.
I think once I do this, she will catch on right away.

Will try it tonight when I go see her :)

But Im still worried that if she picks up with the intention of pawing, and I grab her hoof and hold it, that she sees it as her being taught not to paw instead.
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I know. Once I get her through this, hoping she is better in picking up and more importantly holding her feet up.



I think once I do this, she will catch on right away.

Will try it tonight when I go see her :)

But Im still worried that if she picks up with the intention of pawing, and I grab her hoof and hold it, that she sees it as her being taught not to paw instead.
(Ahem) So she learns not to paw and also learns to pick her foot up when you ask? What is wrong with that? I don't get what you are so worried about. Just do it.
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But Im still worried that if she picks up with the intention of pawing, and I grab her hoof and hold it, that she sees it as her being taught not to paw instead.
Isn't that a good thing?

Am I missing something?
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(Ahem) So she learns not to paw and also learns to pick her foot up when you ask? What is wrong with that? I don't get what you are so worried about. Just do it.
She can possibly learn two things from it? I didnt know horses can pull two things from one concept.

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Isn't that a good thing?

Am I missing something?
Yes, but I thought she would maybe get confused.
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Bit OT here but, so my equine massage therapist was out last Sunday to work on my mare. She said shes a bit sore on her left hip (possibly from the saddle she said). Nothing serious, just mild soreness. She gave me some excersizes to do with my mare to loosen up that muscle.

So I told my trainer today that she is sore in the left hip and she asked how I could tell. I said well, my massage therapist was out Sunday and noticed it. My trainer or BO do NOT believe in equine massage therapists because they lack the education of a vet and they can pretty much learn and study their content through night classes.

She said that she rode my mare yesterday and today and hasnt noticed anything. She said she wont believe the massage therapist. Hmmm, dont know what to say to that.

Was gonna see my mare tonight but since my trainer rode her yesterday and again today, I feel it might be better off not seeing her tonight, especially since yesterday she got ridden PLUS me working with her, with her feet. If she had back to back days of being ridden plus me working with her feet, that might be too much for 2 days. am I right?

She needs to take in what she learned in todays lesson from my trainer, so maybe I dont see her tonight so she can let that sink in and worry about my stuff on the weekend.

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