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post #11 of 55 Old 10-27-2017, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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I was expecting to read that older posts that were fragile because of exposure snapped and impaled one of your two. Good reminder to always check your fencing. Glad everyone is OK.
Nawww, everything is brand new since I just brought my horses home about 1.5 years ago. No impaling thank goodness! But yes, always check your fence! I had checked it last night though, at last feeding. So I know it happened in the night, or very early in the morning.
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Don't worry about it. Accidents happen.

Whenever I move electric fence, I always walk the fenceline with the horses so they can see their new boundaries. I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with step-in posts and a single electric wire (less is more, honestly) but again, I would just suggest to show them their new boundaries when you move it.

But horses dink around in the pasture. They were probably goofing off and miscalculated and whoops!! in the slippery mud.

Quite a long time ago when my old horse (who is now long gone) was a young one, we arrived home from church to find him grazing in the ditch next to the pasture. There was not a scratch on him and no evidence on the fence (metal T-posts with barbed wire .... my parents raise cattle). It had rained recently and the only thing we could find was a couple skid marks. So we are thinking he was running around and slipped right under the fence completely and slid into the ditch. Or at least, that's out theory.

Another time a few years later, I had let him go after a ride. He and the other horses took off tearing across the pasture, bucking and kicking and having a good time. I saw the top half of them over the hill ... and then I saw 4 legs in the air from my horse. He was being such a goofball that he fell @$$ over teakettle!! Thankfully he was in the middle of the pasture so the only thing he probably hurt was his pride.

So don't beat yourself up. It would be NOT normal to not have a fence story every now and then. If you want to fix the fence and put them back out, they'll probably be just fine.

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Horses have 2 thoughts every day. "What will I eat?" and "How can I kill myself?". I use a lot of electric fencing and they learn by getting zapped that it's a bad idea to challenge. Accidents can & do happen. Patti went running the other day and forgot about the hot wire across the gate between 2 pastures. Ditto a lot of rain here this year, makes the fence a whole lot more effective, and she threw on the brakes at the last minute. Skidded right through the hot wire, got herself zapped in the process. They live and they learn. If they don't learn, then I say, "TSTL - Too Stupid To Live".

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post #14 of 55 Old 10-27-2017, 11:23 AM
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That's what I thought too, until today. Good that you have perimeter fencing, but personally, I wouldn't want my horses getting loose. We live close to a road where logging trucks travel down at very high speeds and would be unable to stop for a horse. And if there's one thing I've noticed, is that loose horses like to walk in the middle of the road for some strange reason!

And while no one got hurt, I worry about the trauma of getting tangled in the fence for a horse like Kodak, who is already anxious and nervous. Also, the posts gave, obviously, but the Electrobraid did NOT break.

I'm not telling anyone not to use it, just to be aware of its dangers, and to make sure there is solid perimeter fencing all the way around.
We're right by a secondary highway, so know how you feel with the traffic. Our horses would have to get out of the wire, run through the hay field, ignore all the tasty grass, then get through the barbwire perimeter fencing. Part of property is isolated by a pond and a marshy stream, too. We've had the neighbor's cows get in more than our horses get out. lol.

Had to look up electrobraid. I can see why it doesn't break. It is much thicker than the stuff we use. I can see why it gets drug down with snow and ice, too. Have you ever tried this wire? You can put flagging tape on it for more visibility.
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Roads were our main concern as well. We’ve since moved, but at the time the grass verge between the field fences and main road was so narrow that if a horse stretched out a nose they’d get it taken off by a vehicle. We couldn’t change the fence as we were renting, so an electric one kept them out of harm’s way and off the road.

It was also used to rest grazing and keep the mares and new foals away from the friendly, but unwanted, attention of the other horses.
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I have a "temporary" fence with tread-ins set up a good few yards in from the permanent fenceline in some of "my" paddocks. I don't intend to move or remove that fence any time soon, or possibly ever.

Why?

The farm I board at is very small - I share with one other owner and that's it - and as a result the money isn't there for fancy expensive fencing. I have a highly accident prone horse, and some of the older fences aren't really the safest. Because it's not my place I can't fix those fences myself, so the best I can do is keep my horse off them. What I have kicks like a mule, and my dopey horse who likes kicking fences stays WELL away from it.

So really... safer all round.

(Even though she's managed to hurt herself twice anyway... once by slipping in mud & wrenching her shoulder, and once heaven only knows how)
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I think most horse owners who use electric fence have had incidents quite like this. Horses get to running or bucking or trying to get away from the dominant horse and over or through they go. No bashing from me as I have had it happen more than once.
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I'm one of those who've used step in posts around 70 acres for ten years plus with a single wire. We've definitely had some horses run through, slice themselves, get tangled, fall down, get cast, etc etc etc. It's terrifying. But, I personally like the step in posts with wire compared to solid because *to me* it reduces the chances of them cutting themselves open. The wire just comes off the posts, with the insulator. T posts are a no for me though... Sucks because I saw a horse run through rails and get impaled on a shattered rail and be pts. If it were wire he would have had a gash and nothing more. Horses seem to hurt themselves on EVERYTHING lol Trouble prefers to jump over the fence, rather than run through, and he seems to clear it with room to spare.
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I've used electric tape for years and we've had similar incidents and I think most owners probably have had something happen but on the whole its mostly safe and effective.
I do prefer the wide tape to the string because its more visible and seems to have less risk of causing injury if they do get stuck in it. We get snow, ice and high winds and it seems to hold up pretty well but we use a system of wooden posts and bracing posts in the corners and if I was going to use the tape for longer distances (we only use it to divide our paddocks up) I'd also drop the occasional wooden post in at intervals.
Last winter Jazzie decided to go leaping and cantering across her paddock on icy snow, tried to stop, failed, lost her balance and ended up sliding under the electric tape on her side. She was shaken up and a bit sore for a few days but it would have been much worse if it had been one of the wooden railed sections she'd hit
I never leave my horses out all night as most mornings we find a length of tape down and plastic posts pulled out because some animal has gone through in the night. They (horses) could only get into adjoining woodland but its trappy and boggy so the chance of serious injury would be very high if they did get on it
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Thanks for your stories all! Yes, I probably overreacted, as usual. I was just surprised because they've never done this before so I assumed they wouldn't test it. Who knows what happened. I'll try not to worry too much, but they are in the winter paddock regardless. With all the rain we had, they were just tearing up the pasture and I need to do a few things to the back pasture so they can use it again next summer. We're going to disc it so we can churn everything under, including manure, and let it all sit over the winter. In the spring, we will re-seed. They only go in that pasture mid to late summer anyway. The near pasture is eaten to the bare ground. I was going to put them in the winter paddock sooner or later, just doing it a couple of days sooner.

And @Beau , this new temporary fence had been there for a couple of days before this happened so they had had a chance to get used to it. Still, they could have forgotten it was there in the dark. But thanks for reassuring me that stuff like this happens and that I don't need to beat myself up over it.

You too @carshon . I appreciate the support as always :) Trying to figure out this horsekeeping thing, and I thought I was being very safe, but still, I guess things can happen.

@ApuestoT, will have a look at that wire. I won't redo all my pasture right away, since it wasn't cheap to do them all with 3 lines of Electrobraid, and it's holding up great as perimeter fencing, it's just the temporary fence that got taken out. However, it's always good to know what options are out there when the time comes to re-do it all!

@what ta, I suppose maybe you're right - if those hadn't been just flimsy step-ins, it could have been worse. As it is, they just got pulled out, dragged, and the horse got loose without injury. Neither one was phased this morning or this evening (I groomed them and checked again for signs of injuries or swelling, but nothing). They're not thrilled about being stuck in the paddock, and it sucks because they were getting so much more exercise from going out to the back pasture, but for reasons I explained above, this was going to happen soon anyway. My 4-5 acres of pasture will quickly get ruined this time of year if I let them tear around in there, and soon there will be snow on the ground. I need this time to work on the pastures so they can go back out in the spring.

@jaydee , yes I'll probably keep my horses in the paddock overnight when I use this kind of temporary fence in the future. At least during daylight hours there's a better chance they'll see it. Though in the summer, they are out 24/7 because they prefer to graze at night when it's cooler and there are no flies. So there are a lot of factors to consider.
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