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post #41 of 55 Old 11-11-2017, 08:32 AM Thread Starter
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LOL @Foxhunter ! Yes, they do seem to look for ways to get in trouble. I guess I'm lucky that my two have never hurt themselves. But I do see horses in setups that make me cringe and yet somehow, no one ever gets hurt. At my daughter's lesson barn, there are a couple of old horses that are just allowed to roam the grounds like dogs. They do live pretty far out on a dead end country road, but still! The fences are just string, and everyone seems ok with it.

No matter what we do, there is always a way to get hurt, even just taking a wrong step. Which of course, does not mean we shouldn't have good fences, but we probably shouldn't beat ourselves up when our horses still find a way to get in trouble.
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I have used those in the past (just got rid of the last ones) and never had trouble. But a couple months ago my herd took out 6 wooden fence posts buried half a meter into the ground or more...snapped them all off at the base, tangled the fencing wire all up too. No injuries somehow, and we can't figure out what happened exactly either. Horses will always find a way to ruin our fences and injure themselves. We just have to be ready to do the repairs when it happens!

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Been there done that , Almost dislocated my shoulder out of socket and broke my arm. Horse got caught in fence plastic step in posts and multiple strands of tape. I went out to try and get her out and got badly caught in the middle of it. I was trying to grab the fence to take it off the posts cause it was wound round her legs so tightly she just started spinning like mad panicing. Instinctively i grabbed the horse but also had the rope. The post pulled out the rope came out of it , horse is spinning and now the rope is tangled around my arm and the horses leg.

You could actually see my whole arm and shoulder was bruised and you could tell where the lines of wire were basically strangling - on the bruise on my arm. Horse was fine thankfully Id rather take the hit then her. That fence was used to divide an already big field. I will never use it again or any kind of electrical tape at leg level. It was so bad but it could've been so much worse. Lesson learned for me.

Why in the heck would you use multi strands of tape, with temporary electric fencinG?????
The whole idea of temporary electric fencing, is to have it within perimeter fencing, being more of a visible barrier the horses respect, while being very safe, should a horse go through it, and still be contained by that a perimeter fencing
You used that fencing incorrectly, JMO!
There might be lots of slots on those temporary step ins, but that does not mean you use them all! One strand of broad white electric tape, on the top position of four foot step ins is in my view, extremely safe. Only danger I ever had with it, was perhaps a horse going through and eating more grass then intended!
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I used one at 4.5 feet and another at 3 feet, partly because occasionally cattle find their way through the perimeter fence and the calves could walk under the 4.5 rope.

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But I see rickety paddocks all the time around here that consist of step-ins and a single strand of rope.
That's us but I have to say, the most awful dangerous fencing I've ever seen for horses is page-wire. Those nasty square holes are the perfect size for a hoof. Ugh. We have high tensile wire, which doesn't wrap or "tie" around a leg much, and I like it. Trouble ran through the fence (was run through actually) when I brought him home and it just snapped off the poles, and broke at the toe, sliding off him.
Is it possible to do your corridor in boards nailed to trees/posts? Then have a gate?
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Thanks so much for sharing your experience! We all make mistakes, and as long as we learn from them, to be honest, it's unfair for anyone to bash. Glad all horses and humans alike are safe!

I'll be using capped steel T-Posts with two electrified ribbons to temporarily keep my horses in the sacrifice pasture this winter, and off the areas that will be 2 other pastures with permanent fencing come spring. This method worked really well for us last winter, and honestly half the time the fencing wasn't electrified and the horses still respected it. We used 2" white electric tape that's really visible. I wouldn't do just two strands if it was an external fence, but to cross fence, it did the trick. We don't get the snow you do, so electric tape works well for our application.
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That's us but I have to say, the most awful dangerous fencing I've ever seen for horses is page-wire. Those nasty square holes are the perfect size for a hoof. Ugh. We have high tensile wire, which doesn't wrap or "tie" around a leg much, and I like it. Trouble ran through the fence (was run through actually) when I brought him home and it just snapped off the poles, and broke at the toe, sliding off him.
Is it possible to do your corridor in boards nailed to trees/posts? Then have a gate?
Maybe, but you are fencing off a huge pasture, so less chance of the horses running into a fence!

Your suggestion wouldn't work for my purpose, unfortunately. I was trying to allow them in the back pasture just a little longer. to get to the back pasture, they have to walk through the main pasture (all my fenced-off areas are connected to make it easier, but with gates between). I didn't want them destroying the main pasture on their way to the back, so was trying to create a little alley. There aren't any trees there, and I don't want to sink posts in their main pasture so step-ins were used. I have used them extensively before, to divide a large pasture in two for rotational purposes. But this time, I think I made the alley or corridor a little too narrow (though it was at least 40 feet wide) and it had just moved it a couple of days before someone ran into it, so they may have forgotten it was there. I'll use step-ins again, but make sure there is lots of room.
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Maybe, but you are fencing off a huge pasture, so less chance of the horses running into a fence!

Your suggestion wouldn't work for my purpose, unfortunately. I was trying to allow them in the back pasture just a little longer. to get to the back pasture, they have to walk through the main pasture (all my fenced-off areas are connected to make it easier, but with gates between). I didn't want them destroying the main pasture on their way to the back, so was trying to create a little alley. There aren't any trees there, and I don't want to sink posts in their main pasture so step-ins were used. I have used them extensively before, to divide a large pasture in two for rotational purposes. But this time, I think I made the alley or corridor a little too narrow (though it was at least 40 feet wide) and it had just moved it a couple of days before someone ran into it, so they may have forgotten it was there. I'll use step-ins again, but make sure there is lots of room.
I wonder if you just had it TOO wide so they felt there was enough room to play and goof off? When I've made pathways to get from point A to point B I usually only have it 10-15ft wide? Just a thought!
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Far as my experience and view on temporary electric It needs to be within the perimeters of a permanent fence, if used while you are not present , gone from home
Great way to keep grass under control, in areas not mowed ! Carmen becomes my summer time mower for around the back of the barn, and that corridor I still have between the stud pasture and that of the main herd

I will let horses graze in the backyard, around the barn etc with no perimeter fencing, but on horses that have been introduced to it, and respect it, more as a visible barrier the some physical containment, only when I am home. No big deal if they go through it, as the only thing is that will happen, they will get to eat more grass then intended, and perhaps even enjoy my garden

I have neither cattle or sheep, thus only need to us the top position on those step in posts

Even when I use smooth wire on my perimeter fencing, it is only tow strands, as again, I don;t have cattle or even foals any longer

The top wire is hot, and attached on wooden posts with insulators. If a horse hits that fence, those insulators, unlike staples, pop
Works for me, and I have not had a horse get hurt in a fence, since removing all barbwire , when we moved here.
I fenced all our pastures with two stands of smooth wire, except for the one I used to have foals in, where there are three. All posts are wooden treated posts

The stud pasture, had both three strands of wire, plus atop rail. , with a hot wire running over that top rail. There was also a corridor , between the fence line of the stud pasture and that of the main herd, which prevented any face to face contact, with mares in heat, and when a stud might over ride his respect of a hot wire
As a side note, out at the Ya Ha Tinda government ranch, situated in a unique grasslands between the mountains, and where horses used by the Park rangers were raised and over wintered for years, their grazing area, which is huge, is only fenced with a single strand of smooth wire, , four feet off the ground


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