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post #41 of 46 Old 03-21-2016, 10:53 AM
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As I posted before, you have confirmed that these poor horses are extremely arena sour
leave that barn, as you will not learn much, except to fear riding, versus enjoying it
The instructor also appears very irresponsible, putting children on a horse that runs off to the out gate.
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post #42 of 46 Old 03-21-2016, 11:20 AM
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I haven’t read all the other responses, but to answer the original question, YES, they absolutely do. I was blessed to own two of them!

A lot of it has to do with the barn you are learning at, and I feel that you need to find a better one. Someone putting a beginner rider on a horse that is spoiled and pulling this sort of crap is not going to be one where you will be able to learn to be an effective rider, because you won’t ever feel safe enough to relax. I totally disagree with “toughing it out” in order to learn, because that’s a great way to eliminate any confidence a rider ever had, and sour them on riding altogether.

Please shop around for a barn that has calm, safe horses, and that teach you from the beginning how to be a safe and effective rider. A patient, forgiving horse is much different than a sour horse. The first barn I ever rode at was like yours- they asked for too much, too soon, and they put me on a horse that was TOTALLY sour. You had to chase him with a crop to get him to trot. The difference between the two is just night and day.
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post #43 of 46 Old 03-22-2016, 10:51 AM
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Is it just me, or does it seem like the quality of training on the majority of horses has declined sharply in direct correlation to the rise of the "home trainer" who relies on kits and videos?
I do agree that many purchase these kits expecting it to be easy. The truth is, its better to purchase a well trained horse as "we" learn to utilize the training kits. Young horses require experienced horseman for the optimal journey for both parties. I am also horse shopping and have found some of these advertising "45 days of Clinton Anderson training." When observed it was obvious that they were green themselves and the horse was a willing participant, just lacked the experienced leader. Its very important to vet any trainer or lesson barn before moving forward.

Having said all that, I also agree that horses lack the riding time as the other poster mentioned. I have noticed the same thing at my stable. There are many good horses, but they're only ridden occasionally and that usually consists of the weekend due to crazy schedules. The nice thing is there are some that can exercise the horses at our barn and many will take advantage of that. Its unfair to ask our horses to ride for 4 hrs once a week and expect so much. I have even seen a very nice 4 yo who is doing great, but feeds off his rider's nervousness (he's a baby hard to expect much more) but is a saint given only being ridden on the weekend. No bad habits, just those you would expect given his age. His owner decided to send him to a trainer and have him exercised throughout the week when she's unable. But not many handle it the right way, just blame the horse.

I have been in your shoes. I started my horse journey about 5 yrs ago or so and have been through a lot. Of course I would approach it differently as I was taken advantage of many times due to my lack of experience. But long story short, I found a good trainer, have submerged myself in reading to educate myself about the equine as well as training, and a ton of real life experience in medical/lameness issues. My gelding I have now was a HUGE confidence builder for me after my other horses robbed me of all of it. But, my guy has heel pain aka navicular all the way around (yes, rare I know) and one day took up bucking due to a bad angle in his hind compounding his pain. I knew something was wrong as this guy was a sweetheart. He was still corrected for the buck as there are other ways to communicate but in a way that respected both of us. We addressed the pain, and he's back to being his sweet, happy self. He loves the trails and is good in the arena. But then he sustained a suspensory injury and it was back to the search. While he recovered, I found a great boy to lease.

Normally I stay away from the younger horses. This guys is 7 but you would think he's 15. He's naturally lazy, and has a great mind. His eyes are often big so you wouldn't know it, but he's my trusted mount. He has an amazing foundation of training. He's a blast to ride as he has many buttons so we can sidepass, do all kinds of trail obstacles and have a great time. Although, he doesn't love the trails as much as my boy, I trust him as much as you ever would a horse. Having said that, he will occasionally test. He will try to run down a hill which he knows isn't allowed or cantering to catch up to a horse (most of the time he don't care) and other things he knows isn't allowed. I have learned over the years, if I don't correct these choices, they will become problems and my safe, sweet mount can become otherwise.

My heart goes out to you as I know the place you're in is a tough one and we have all been there. Anyone would be discouraged given your experiences. I hope you are able to find a new lesson barn and trainer that can help you move past your present circumstances. Other great resources would be maybe Julie Goodnight. I have many trainers I enjoy and learn from, but she has some great exercises both physically and mentally for regaining your confidence in the saddle. I have used those and even still do as I'm a timid and cautious rider. I have learned we have to communicate otherwise, and there's mental exercises that help me do that in an uncomfortable situation. We all go through moments of decreased confidence throughout the journey, even experienced riders. Its a wonderful resource for those moments. All the best to you!
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I am also horse shopping and have found some of these advertising "45 days of Clinton Anderson training."
Any time I see an ad that describes how much training the horse has had, my first thought is the seller is giving up on this horse. Whether it is professional training or somebody who watched one video on the internet, a seller who has a broke horse doesn't talk about how it got that way. They talk about how calm and willing and obedient it is, and all the things it can do.
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post #45 of 46 Old 03-22-2016, 03:07 PM
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Any time I see an ad that describes how much training the horse has had, my first thought is the seller is giving up on this horse. Whether it is professional training or somebody who watched one video on the internet, a seller who has a broke horse doesn't talk about how it got that way. They talk about how calm and willing and obedient it is, and all the things it can do.
I definitely think that sometimes is the case. Others it is just someone who breaks horses and sells them to be finished out. Arguably not always the best scenario, but I don't think it always signifies issues either.
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Don't give up, keep searching for other places, even a bit further, maybe you find a barn with new horses that suit your experience and can bring back the fun of riding.

I live in a non horse area as well, so not many riding schools around, long story short and after 3 different barns and a couple bad experiences with too lazy horses, a high strung stallion and an instructor that dumped me and the horse in the arena every class and would not even stay around to supervise, I ended renting a horse in a farm where horses are rented to trail rides to the beach with tourists. It lasted about one year, and then I got permission to board a horse in there. I found a really nice mare advertised as beginner safe, and brought her in. Found later she belonged to a bullfight rider that was using her as a school horse. Apparently some kids were affraid of her, yes she tried to test me, little things like trying to turn back on the trail or go to the middle of the arena, but is very forgiving and has a big heart. Takes good care of all my non-horsey friends, even when they use too much rein to hold on, and when I put children on her she follows me by my shoulder and is very careful. I am a very nervous rider, and I know she feels it, but you could never tell, because her behaviour is always the same, she is bomb proof like 99% of the time, but when she spooks she quickly calms down by herself, not by my riding skills, lol!! So she takes good care of me, never bucked, reared or tried to bite, actually once the girth was too tight and slightly too far back, my fault, and when I mounted instead of bucking or going up she went down, that was her most polite way to say it was hurting. My priceless girl

Plus she is not like the horses BO rents, besides being trustworthy for every level of experience she is not a dead head, has a lot of personality
Hope you find one of this soon, it is great to boost confidence.
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