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post #51 of 79 Old 11-22-2014, 05:43 AM
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Taking one to the kill pen next weekend, so I guess you can see where I stand on the matter.

Too many good horses out there to have pasture pets that suffer the same end.

Just my opinion.
Although I don't agree, I do respect your decision to take them to the kill pen. It is your horse and you can do as you wish. Just like deciding to have a pasture ornament and not ride.

We have 10 horses and a mule, and they don't get rode often, the ones that can be rode. 7 are rideable. Of those 7, my wife rides one mainly and I deal with the rest. Since we only ride on the weekends, when we aren't too busy and the weather is decent, they rarely get rode. We do have friends that come and ride with us using our horses, which helps.

One mare, that is rideable, is mainly a pasture ornament. She was stepped on just after birth, but before we got her. The owner was going to put her down because she didn't want to spend a couple hundred to get her taken care of and didn't like her markings. She agree to give her to us if we were going to get her taken care of. Since the injury wasn't taken care of right away and was so long before we got involved, the $300 vet bill turned into a $1500 bill. The vet told us that she may get arthritis by the age of 8 and should only be rode lightly. She only gets rode now maybe once or twice a year, which is fine with me and her.

Of the other 4 that aren't rideable yet, one just turned 2 this year and will be started next year. Another was a rescue that gave birth to the mule a year ago. She also has heaves and it is severe. She will likely be another pasture ornament. The other was also a rescue. I tried to start working with her this fall. I did get a few rides on her but she bucked me off and I broke 5 ribs. Another reason I haven't rode much this year. Finally, the mule. He just turned 1 so he won't get started for at least another year and a half.

So, we have a lot of hay burners and they don't do much work for us. However, they are great therapists too. Even if it's just watching them run around and be playful.
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post #52 of 79 Old 11-22-2014, 02:09 PM
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i don't ride my mare these days. but we have our reasons.

earlier this summer there were some pain issues that needed chiro work. no riding til that was all resolved. soon as my mare was at the point where we could resume training (she's 3 and just started under saddle this summer), she got strangles (still scratching my head on that one, no new horses at the barn and she's been there since february). so now she is fully recovered from that just in time for winter at an all outdoor barn. OY! lol.

but spring will come and we will get back on with getting back on and riding.
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post #53 of 79 Old 11-22-2014, 09:55 PM
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No, you don't "love him" if you're willing to send him to the stress of a kill auction followed by slaughter just so you can save yourself the hassle and cost of bullets/burial. The slaughter industry is extremely inhumane in part because lobbying in the US removed all the regulation on slaughterhouses since horses must now be shipped out of the states.

If you really "loved" this horse, you'd shoot him in the head and be done with him rather than sending him to a stressful and no doubt cruel end. You just don't want to have to pay for that and would rather torture the poor animal with stress than allow him a kind end.
I'm rather dislike assumption. I'm very capable of both myself. $ has no issue here.

And as far as loved, maybe I did overstep my bounds by saying loved.

There's no love like that of a father who loves his child. So maybe he isn't loved so much as cherished. My bad.
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post #54 of 79 Old 11-22-2014, 11:48 PM
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Wow PHLY, You made me realize how lucky I was to choose for a husband a man who has compassion. A man who knows what love and cherished mean.
I am so thankful that my husband knows responsibility and kindness. When an animal is in your care it is your responsibility to care for that animal. Sending it to the auction and subsequent slaughter knowing what his fate is, is something many of my friends would not do even to a horse they hated. They pay to have him euthanized, it is humane.
The thing about being human is we can all choose to be barbaric if we want. People behead others because they believe it is right for their cause. So go ahead and send that poor animal to a horrific fate because you choose to not pay to have him euthanized. Euthanizing him would be HUMANE. Being human does not make you humane. All human's are capable of disgusting stuff. Some cultures still eat the brains of their loved ones when they pass, they think it keeps their dead relatives spirit with them. So go ahead with your barbaric plans. Not all humans are civilized.
I am thankful that my husband is more of an intelligent being.
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post #55 of 79 Old 11-22-2014, 11:51 PM Thread Starter
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I'm rather dislike assumption. I'm very capable of both myself. $ has no issue here.

And as far as loved, maybe I did overstep my bounds by saying loved.

There's no love like that of a father who loves his child. So maybe he isn't loved so much as cherished. My bad.
If not money, then why, exactly, would you slaughter instead of doing it yourself?
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post #56 of 79 Old 11-23-2014, 12:34 AM
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Ok, I'd it'll make yall feel better, I'll drop him on video and post it here. Will that be allowed? Then I'll show you as I dig the hole for him and place his lifeless body not so gingerly into the hole and compact the area with a 40000lbs machine. So the coyotes don't dig him up.
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post #57 of 79 Old 11-23-2014, 01:20 AM
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Nice..

Way to try and control others and make them feel responsible for your actions. If indeed this is your horse, no one is responsible for what happens to him except you.

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Way to try and control others and make them feel responsible for your actions. If indeed this is your horse, no one is responsible for what happens to him except you.
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post #59 of 79 Old 11-23-2014, 02:50 AM
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Ok, I'd it'll make yall feel better, I'll drop him on video and post it here. Will that be allowed? Then I'll show you as I dig the hole for him and place his lifeless body not so gingerly into the hole and compact the area with a 40000lbs machine. So the coyotes don't dig him up.

I do not think that a video would be necessary.

In some ways it might be a good thing so people can see that euthanasia is not so terrible.

I have taken horses to abattoirs. In the UK it is well organised and humanely executed. I would not allow a horse to travel from the UK to the continent for hour upon hour to then be killed goodness knows how.

I have kept a couple of pasture puffs but they still had their uses. One mare was brilliant with the weaned foals, she was sound had bred foals that had been sold and gone on to be good competition horses and earned her keep. She was shot when she had a bad bout of colic which turned out to be caused by a tumour in her gut. She was taken by the Hunt kennels.

The other was my last Hunter. He wasn't sound, high ringbone in one leg. He went to a friend who wanted a companion for a young horse she had bred.
When that horse came into work he was euthanised at the (Fox) Hunt kennels and fed to hounds.

I will not keep a horse that is crippled for one reason or another. They are in pain and the day will come when you find them down unable to get up. I would rather they went a week early than a day late.

I can look at myself in the mirror and know that I have given animals in my care the best life I could. I have never had an unsound horse that I have sold just to get rid of it. I believe in a good life and a good death.
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post #60 of 79 Old 11-23-2014, 03:40 AM
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I am not a fan of slaughter, take mine to get euthed, as I am never lucky enough to have them just lie down and die. It is not cheap. the Carcass removal cost any place from $250. +
The rendering plants here charge to take them from the Carcass guys. They can take them to the landfills but pay per pound now.
I i had a backhoe, I would just have my bros or bros in law shoot them and bury them.
Shoot Shovel and Shut Up.
I know some ranchers that would rather SSS or take to the KB then sell off a chronic lame horse. I may disagree with the slaughter house, but is a personal decision. There will also be a slaughter plant. To many horses, not enough homes. Just one of those ugly facts of life .
Life out on a working ranch is a lot different than just a person who owns a trail or show horse.
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