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post #1 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 06:47 PM Thread Starter
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DONE with horses....FOREVER!!

My husband and I both just got our butts handed to us by my horse!! My neighbor was telling us the other day that winter is when he prefers to ride and break horses because they cant/wont buck in the deeper snow. He convinced me to get out there and get on. Now Im nursing my pride and wounds!
I brought the horse around to where I was going to saddle him, he danced around a bit when I put the pad on, but was ok when I put the saddle on. I got the cinch around him, but left it a little loose since hes been cinchy in the past. I got the headstall and as I was moving to put it on him, he started pulling and freaking out. Once he calmed down, I tightened the cinch a little, walked him around, and tightened it the rest of the way. We walked him a little, he seemed fine so I got on. My husband was holding the lead rope, I had hold of the reins. The second my butt hit that saddle he started bucking like a freakin bronc! I went flying, hitting the saddle horn with my thigh and my lady parts on my way to the ground. As Im struggling to get turned around to see if hes going to land on me, I see him rear up right over my husband.
Im just done with horses. This has been such a horrible and painful experience for me for the 3 months Ive owned him. Im not totally new to horses either. And its not like hes been a pasture ornament all winter! Since he bucked me off on my first ride in November, Ive been out there fiddling with him, bonding, etc. I was finally healed enough from that first time that I figured this beautiful sunny day would be perfect!
A little back story; hes a 12 y.o. paint that spent 2 months with a very reputable trainer right before I bought him. Hes had a lot of groundwork done and has packed elk, and spent tons of time in the mountains.

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post #2 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 07:10 PM
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Hi. I am sorry you are so frustrated with your horse. You need a trainer if you want to keep your horse. It sounds like you don't. Maybe that is best for you to be done with horses then. Not trying to be harsh but the bottom line is that horses are expensive and take allot of work.

I knew very little when I got mine. We spent the first 3 years trying to survive all the idiotic situations I put us in. She didn't fare as well as I did. But we did manage to live. I of course with my ignorance almost destroyed her.

I then, during one of her many 12 month recovery times, found a trainer that I respected and admired. A trainer with an impeccable reputation. A trainer who I watched work with many horses with every single horse she trained was much better for it. I saw that she didn't buy into gimmicks or methods. She trained horses and taught riders and was very no nonsense about it. She didn't coddle anyone, horse or person and she adjusted her training for each horse and rider.

It started out with my asking to clean tack in exchange for observing her. Very quickly I started working for her. First just tacking up and un- tacking 6 or 7 horses a day. Then after I got over my fears of handling different horses, she started giving me lessons on one of them. After what seemed like weeks of cantering around with my hands making circles in the air, no reins of course, and throwing one leg off then the other, I finally got to ride a different horse and this went on for what seemed like forever. Eventually it got to where I was allowed to warm up and cool down some of the horses. Finally after about a year I was riding 6 or 7 different horses a day. She didn't let me ride all of them, only the ones who's owners were okay with it and who she felt would be ok with me.

After a year and a half I can ride my horse just fine. She is fearless and brave and trusts me. I have no fear or anxiety in the saddle what so ever.

I have a very close friend that is a trainer as well. Also a very good trainer. She helps me all the time.

I have had my horse for 5 years. I could not have her without the help of a great trainer.

What I am getting at here is that they are to big and can really hurt you or worse. You must know what you are doing and not with just one horse, all horses.

You wouldn't be allowed to fly a jet because you had used a simulator once?
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post #3 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 07:21 PM
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I'm so sorry for your experience.

I think instead, maybe you are just done with this horse? You seem to have problems and either you sort them out together, or you find this horse a person who can handle him and is able to sort him out, and get yourself a horse that reflects your experience level and energy better.

The riding work starts from the ground, and there he was very up and uncontrollable. I have been there with a horse that was too up, too much for me at the time, and I also got hurt on our first ride after having her home. I still have that horse, as we were able to sort out our initial problem.

Think about what you really want to do.
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post #4 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 07:26 PM
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This might not be the horse for you. Many horses can't sit for a while without be in solid work without having a reminder... particularly if they haven't had huge amount of experience. Many horses are different in a home situation vs a barn situation is solid work. Or being ridden consistently.

Your tack might not fit perfectly, you might have made a riding error. If you "want" to try, You should get back with his trainer so that the trainer can work with you to get the horse working well WITH you until you can handle him well.
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post #5 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 10:25 PM
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Not exactly sure why you would post this in a horse forum... obviously we are all horse people, but you seem fed up with your (apparently brief?) horse experience.

But really? You clearly figured this horse was going to fight you since you decided to do it in the winter because "he won't buck in the deeper snow" according to your neighbor who likes to "break" horses in the winter. I'm really confused. You describe this horse as if you're tacking him up for the first time. But you also say he has tons of groundwork with a trainer and packed elk. Also that this wasn't the first time he was cinchy, but you've only had him for 3 months. How often have you ridden him?

Honestly, this sounds poorly thought out. You can't just jump on a horse and assume all will be fine. I'm pretty much a newbie myself. Got a mare last June who promptly dumped me twice (not my first horse, but the most challenging one for me thus far). She was supposed to be dead broke and I did ride her twice before buying her, as did my 11 year old daughter. But when she spooked badly and I went flying, I didn't blame it on her. I got a trainer to help me desensitize her. We worked with the trainer for 6 weeks and I am now going on 8 months with this mare. She is the most loyal, dependable horse and has become a total love bug. It just took time because she had issues that were not revealed to me when I bought her. Bottom line: I don't blame her for reacting. It's not fun to fall, but usually, it's not because the horse is evil.

If you're not willing to work with a horse to try to understand why it's acting up, then yes, walk away. But know that you are walking away from something that is potentially the most rewarding, incredible experience in your life.
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post #6 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 10:33 PM
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Have you had your saddle checked? Has the horse been vet checked? Chiropractor? If not, its very possible this horse could be reacting to pain.

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post #7 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 10:38 PM
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Sell him and buy a new one. I have the (un)popular opinion that if a horse doesn't fit your needs, sell him on and try another one. There are PLENTY of horses out there for every type of rider. Why fight?
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post #8 of 33 Old 01-27-2017, 11:00 PM
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@Tihannah

also my thought. My mother's mare is the sweetest ranch bred & broke QH mare you will ever meet with a gelding's personality and a can do no wrong attitude. Yet put some ill fitting tack on her, and a heavy enough rider, and she turns into a raging bronc.

Either this horse has some pain issues or the seller was not honest and lied about the horse.

In any case, blaming the horse is silly. One of the golden rules of horsemanship is that it is never the horse's fault. There is always a reason for behavior. That doesn't necessarily mean that you caused the behavior though. But it is up to us to figure out why they act the way they do.

Anthropomorphizing a bit here, but how would you react if you were with a bunch of strange foreigners and you did not speak their language, and they suddenly started causing you pain? And the body language hints you give (ex. arm waving for humans) they pay no attention to?

As @WhattaTroublemaker said, you could sell him on and try another. You would get far more for him if you sent him to a trainer first to fix his problems. However, I am one who believes in figuring out a problem rather than just dumping it to get a different problem.

As for being done with horses, of course that is entirely up to you. I'll give you a few reasons why horses are good for people though:
*They build your self-confidence
*They improve your ability to be firm and to the point
*They force you to think through a problem in a variety of ways
*They give you drive and ambition, aka a 'can-do' attitude
*They improve logical and critical thinking
*They get you outside
*Caring for them and riding is a great form of exercise
*Many people find them to be calming and therapeutic

This is aside from all of the different things that you can do with them.

Personally for me, finding a solution to a horse problem is always one of the most rewarding and exciting experiences of my life. Horses are like a giant puzzle that never ends as there is always something to be solved. I guess that's why I'm bored when I don't have them.

At any rate, please update this thread with your decision. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious of the outcome.

God Bless and be safe, whatever you decide.
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post #9 of 33 Old 01-28-2017, 12:02 AM
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Sell him and buy a new one. I have the (un)popular opinion that if a horse doesn't fit your needs, sell him on and try another one. There are PLENTY of horses out there for every type of rider. Why fight?
Often times a well trained horse can become a nightmare with an inexperienced owner.
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post #10 of 33 Old 01-28-2017, 12:29 AM
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I am very sorry to hear about your accident. Getting thrown and injured definitely does quite a number on your confidence levels. After my major accident, I was done with horses for about 6 to 7 years. I did come back, I just couldn't stay away.

So, you may just need a break. You may have to find a new home for your current horse and heal your wounds both physically and mentally. Perhaps, you will just want to start over. Take lessons on a reliable horse and have an instructor nearby to give you encouragment as well as challenge you.

Or, you may have made this post out of frustration and will decide to keep your horse. In which case, I would recommend getting a trainer back into the picture. It sounds like this horse is realizing that he can get away with work by bucking you off which is a very dangerous thing.

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.
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