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post #1 of 62 Old 12-12-2017, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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Question Eleven, the found horse.

hi, my post about the horse I found (topic name was something similar to 'from city life to country life') also my account (hokkabaz) got deleted by someone. I do not know if it was a mistake or there was something wrong I have done. I am here just to figure that out. Thanks.
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The entire site is having some sort of "issue" that has removed recent posts, threads.
I guess it may have done in your membership too.
It is not anything you have done wrong...you won't be the only one with the issue either I have a feeling.
The tech team is working a solution and return to what was...

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I like my new nickname better anyway, let me hope that nothing happens to this account. Thank you for the information.
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post #4 of 62 Old 12-12-2017, 07:34 PM
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What horselovingguy said. I've also lost some posts. The mods did a forum update on December 4th and things have been off kilter since then, it seems.

Here's the complaint thread, if you're interested, lollol

https://www.horseforum.com/horse-foru...thread-785659/

Did you get to read my comment about taking legal steps to own the horse? It is crucial you do that, lest the guy who didn't want the malnourished horse that now looks pretty darn good, can ask for the horse to be returned to him and be within his rights. At this point you are a foster person, not the legal owner.

The easiest thing would be for the guy to sign a paper stating you are now the legal owner ---- give him $10 and note that in the Bill of Sale to also make it financially binding:)

Keep asking questions but hold off on posting pictures until this forum thing gets sorted out. Hopefully that will be soon but all the mods have real jobs and don't have 24/7 to devote to the forum ---- we all need to be patient ---- and I need to practice what I preach, lollol

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post #5 of 62 Old 12-12-2017, 07:45 PM
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Yes, please keep us updated and do not hesitate to ask questions. The only dumb question is the one that is not asked.
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I just want to clarify that the moderators do not have control of site updates or fixes. We do very little that is in any way 'technically' connected to how the forum runs. We can do things like reset passwords and update emails and get people back onto their original accounts (which is the preferred route). But we had nothing to do with this glitch, nor can we affect a cure.
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post #7 of 62 Old 12-15-2017, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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It is getting crazy at work right before holidays so I could not find a chance to stop by here,

Vet said that he got sick and will not be able to show up today but he can do it next Friday, I said no problem.

Ownership is still kind of in the mid air. I have printed out a paper stating something just like what you all have suggested and I have a copy of it in several places like at home, in the car etc. I will make the neighbor sign it whenever I see him again. He told us where he lives but we are new to the area so the way he explained it to us made kind of no sense.

It has been a week(?) and he is still really happy just by being in the yard. Does not try to run away or anything, he has a lot of patience around the dogs we have (1 terrier mix, female, most jealous creature I have ever seen in my life. and 1 wiener dog). I was expecting the terrier to get kicked couple of times by now but he is still being a good boy. Sometimes all 3 of them walk around in the yard which looks really weird lol

Now I can brush ALMOST all the way down to his lower back legs but not quiet yet. He lifts his leg up when he gets bored/irritated so I stop.

His food container stays in the shed and when I opened the sheds door get it, he blocked me in and try to reach into the shed to get the food (it was the first night).I couldn't make him back up and I had to wait there, kind of stuck in shed until he decided to back out. Second night I was feeling brave for some reason (or stupid) so I let him do the same thing but this time I put my palm in between his eyes and pushed him back. He did exactly what I wanted him to do without an issue. I won :) He doesn't do this anymore by the way, I open the door and he waits about 5 feet away from the shed until I get back out from the shed :)

Now he knows his name( or just my voice, regardless of what I say). Whenever I call him, he comes to me and puts his upper head on my arm.

Only thing I haven't been able to figure out is the reason for them to make a noise( is it called neigh?). Is it happiness? madness? He does it when I am too slow to give him the food. so I would think it is madness but he doesn't do it when the dogs irritate him.

I am about to order a water fountain thingy for horses. I am using a 30 something gallon trash can at the moment and it is not fun to empty it out and fill it back up every day.

I am also looking into getting an electric fence. not the web kind but just the wire to add it on top of the, kind of, flimsy fence we have.

Spreading poop mountains have been my morning workouts so far. I love it because the soil is extremely sandy and it would use all this organic matter so I don't scoop the poop I just spread it around. I usually just throw them up couple of feet so they break into tiny pieces by impact.

He looks into the bedroom from the window in the mornings to see if it is time to get some of that good food yet. really cool :)
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post #8 of 62 Old 12-15-2017, 08:24 PM
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Sounds like all is progressing in a good way...
I will answer what I can in order with your comment so hopefully it will make some better sense...

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It is getting crazy at work right before holidays so I could not find a chance to stop by here,

Vet said that he got sick and will not be able to show up today but he can do it next Friday, I said no problem.

Ownership is still kind of in the mid air. I have printed out a paper stating something just like what you all have suggested and I have a copy of it in several places like at home, in the car etc. I will make the neighbor sign it whenever I see him again. He told us where he lives but we are new to the area so the way he explained it to us made kind of no sense.

It has been a week(?) and he is still really happy just by being in the yard. Does not try to run away or anything, he has a lot of patience around the dogs we have (1 terrier mix, female, most jealous creature I have ever seen in my life. and 1 wiener dog). I was expecting the terrier to get kicked couple of times by now but he is still being a good boy. Sometimes all 3 of them walk around in the yard which looks really weird lol
Horses like dogs normally as long as they not nip or bite at them...companionship is what you are noticing.
As long as Eleven knows there is food and kindness here with you he will not leave but will wander.
Right now, he is happy as food is abundant...something he did not have from what you described.
He is also getting attention and many horses thrive on attention, loving soft gestures like grooming and brushing he is now enjoying from you...
There is no reason for this horse to look to leave....but you need a fence to keep him safe.
Horses do wander, it is part of what a horse does when they graze and search for food...
Keep Eleven safe by containing him with fence or using that high line or picket line as it is called.

Now I can brush ALMOST all the way down to his lower back legs but not quiet yet. He lifts his leg up when he gets bored/irritated so I stop.
Eleven may not be doing anything to hurt you...
Sounds more like he is resting his foot and leg, enjoying the attention you are giving him.
If you look at him, he will bend his leg at the hock{knee} and fetlock {ankle}, his hip on the same side will actually drop down and you will see his back has a slant to it...
That is a way that a horse can rest on his feet.
He is literally resting his leg and will change sides and position so he can rest the other side too.

His food container stays in the shed and when I opened the sheds door get it, he blocked me in and try to reach into the shed to get the food (it was the first night).I couldn't make him back up and I had to wait there, kind of stuck in shed until he decided to back out. Second night I was feeling brave for some reason (or stupid) so I let him do the same thing but this time I put my palm in between his eyes and pushed him back. He did exactly what I wanted him to do without an issue. I won :) He doesn't do this anymore by the way, I open the door and he waits about 5 feet away from the shed until I get back out from the shed :)
Regardless of how gentle Eleven is being you still need to be in charge.
Do not ever allow him to corner you or make you wait...you did right by being dominant and pushing back on his face to move him.
Add your voice in a dominant tone next time you need him to do as you want and he is being non-compliant.
Simple one-word sayings....
Commands simply and consistently given horses learn the sounds we make and what we want by association..Back, Over, Move, Hoof or Lift when you get to cleaning those hooves, Whoa when he must stop immediately in his tracks to be safe or not hurt you...other wise I use "Easy" to quiet my horse when anxious.
Eleven is not a dog. Do not ever treat him as one.
Eleven is a soon to be 1000+ pound horse... with love shown you can always be the leader but you must be the leader not him to remain safe.
It is called respect...the horse must have it for you, the handler, just like your dogs have respect for you...no different but for size.
RESPECT...always you keep that.

Now he knows his name( or just my voice, regardless of what I say). Whenever I call him, he comes to me and puts his upper head on my arm.
He is learning his name, yes.
As long as you "invite" him to touch you, this is fine.
Eleven must show respect though to you. IF you tell him no and to move away he must...

Only thing I haven't been able to figure out is the reason for them to make a noise( is it called neigh?). Is it happiness? madness? He does it when I am too slow to give him the food. so I would think it is madness but he doesn't do it when the dogs irritate him.
Neighing or whinnying is what a horse does in calling to someone or another horse they recognize...
A greeting...
Kind of loud when they make that sound.
If you hear a soft, quieter sound it is called a nicker...another way of greeting.
I think of nickers being more personal, happy and content sound.
MY horses whinny in greeting to me from a distance but when I am close to them where they can hear me speaking quietly to them they talk to me with nickering...especially at feeding time.
Hurry up with my food...I so want my food.... I want some attention... Can you hear me talking to you?
Yes, it is a horses way to talk to their human...

I am about to order a water fountain thingy for horses. I am using a 30 something gallon trash can at the moment and it is not fun to empty it out and fill it back up every day.
I honestly do not empty and fill a trough daily for my horses....
Cooler weather suppresses the growth of mold/algae so it is not necessary to dump, scrub and refill every day, honest.
Horses drink about 15 gallons of water a day so don't feel you need to have so much on hand for one horse.
If you in the future get a automatic float it will keep any size trough or large bucket full.
I honestly dump, scrub my trough 2x a week in summer hot weather...now that it is much cooler, I do it every 10 days and there is just barely any slime in the trough.
As long as your water is not murky looking, free of floating dead animals and such...smells good....the horses will drink from it.
Horses love to drink from puddles so think about what "cleanliness" they seek...

I am also looking into getting an electric fence. not the web kind but just the wire to add it on top of the, kind of, flimsy fence we have.
No idea on electric fence as I don't have it...
Done correctly it is great and safe to use..

Spreading poop mountains have been my morning workouts so far. I love it because the soil is extremely sandy and it would use all this organic matter so I don't scoop the poop I just spread it around. I usually just throw them up couple of feet so they break into tiny pieces by impact.
Wait till you see the toning up you are doing in a months time....
Spreading manure is a great "free" exercise routine...

He looks into the bedroom from the window in the mornings to see if it is time to get some of that good food yet. really cool :)
He is learning your routine and you...
Sweet it is and a feeling few others can offer to open the house door and a "shout" {neigh/whinny} of greeting greets you.
Sigh...

You're doing great...keep at it.
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Make sure you have a fecal done. Then worm accordingly. Realize that there is a maximum amount of poop an area can handle at one time and he won't eat where he's pooped so you may run out of grass for him just on that alone. Spreading also encourages the spread of parasites if the weather is not such that it dries things out quickly. Even then you still have some spread if the animal is actively on that section and it is not allowed to rest. Sounds like you are doing great! Looking forward to seeing pics and updates. Find the owner. Most local libraries have computer access if you don't have one or a phone capable of mapping. Seeing a birds eye view from satellite is a great way to make sense of directions.
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So thrilled to see you back on here; reading about you and your learning about Eleven is better than a good book!

Sounds like things are going great with Eleven. Word of caution about the water "thingy"...is it an automatic waterer of some sort? Some horses wont drink out of an automatic waterer.

Can use a round muck bucket for water. They sell them at feed stores or even big box stores. Round large containers with rope handles.

The electric fence along the top of your regular fence is the cheapest option and easiest to put up. If you use the tape kind it costs a little more but easier to see.

There are portable electric corrals for sale in the $200 range that will provide the charger and posts and everything you need. Or just check your local feed store or Tractor Supply if you have one.

In your last thread that disappeared, i suggested that you look for a local riding instructor, someone who teaches beginning riders. See if they will come out to your property to assess your horse and teach you some basic things like handling him safely and maybe can even help you locate suppliers of things like good hay.

Having an experienced horse person help you learn with your own horse will benefit you in many ways.

Keep posting when you can!
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