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post #11 of 62 Old 12-19-2017, 12:00 PM
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Another good source for someone who can help you get off on the right foot may be your local 4-H group. Perhaps a teen in need of service hours, or their leader can give you some pointers and check in periodically to answer questions. I did that a few times when I worked with 4-H kids, usually horse-crazy kids whose parents had bought them a pony and then had NO idea what to feed it, how to care for it, etc.
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post #12 of 62 Old 12-19-2017, 10:27 PM
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Just checking in again on your fascinating story. I mentioned on the other thread that I see a book in your future!


Other than echo what others have suggested, I can only add that you make sure to keep ALL receipts related to the care and training of Eleven. EVERYTHING. From the major things like vet care, to the perpetual feed bill, to the mundane things like brushes and buckets. Should the old owner demand the horse be returned after you've gotten it healthy and trained, you can demand the repayment of your considerable expenses. This is enough to discourage most of the folks who attempt that.


Do keep us updated and keep asking questions if you have them.
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post #13 of 62 Old 01-06-2018, 10:58 PM Thread Starter
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It is crazy how fast the time passed by around Christmas! So here is what I have been or we have been doing for this 'almost' a full month.

First of all thank you for all the replies! Every bit of help is appreciated by me and even more by Eleven, probably :)

Couple of days after my last post, when I got back home, I forgot the gate open! I was 'little' tipsy. We realized it when we woke up and of course Eleven was gone! I drove around and ask neighbors but I couldnt find him that day. I also walked couple of miles in the middle of the night, shaking his metal feeding cup with some food in it. Did not work. I kept placing food at the place which I used to feed him daily because I didnt want him to come back home while we are at work, look around, find nothing 'cool' and leave again.
Well it worked. 2-3days later he was back :) He has not left since then& I am more careful with the gate :)

I checked the put together electric fence setups but they were pricier than my liking so I decided to build my setup. Got a 1ohm charger(120$) with 25miles of wire(20$) and metal t posts(4$ each. Plastic step in posts made no sense for the same price) and plastic wire holders(25of them for 7$).

Prepared a ~5000sqf 'cage' for him using those materials. It worked good but we decided that we did not like the idea of locking him up like that. I mean, 2.5acre is probably small for a horse too but still better than 5k sqf.

We took the electric fence down and let him have the whole land since then.

I got a wheelbarrel(?) and started collecting all the poop I can find:) I then pick the dryest looking ones and place them around the trees and other plants.
It is not so difficult to keep the land poop free because he always does it on top of the old one.

His ribs are still visible but I am not worried about it because the coldest part of the winter is over. I got down to 15F for couple of nights which is really really cold for this part of Texas. He still has no shed and he survived!

I have been feeding him with that fruity stuff mixed with pellets and now I also give him some Alfalfa(?) hay. From what you guys have been telling me and what I was reading online, it is rich food so I give him just a little bit, twice a day. Small square bale lasted for over 2 weeks that way. He loves it lol

Sales person at the feed store also told me to lover the fruity ingredient of his diet when the weather gets warmer, gradually( important part!). He said since the weather gets really hot, Eleven might end up having too many 'calories' and run hot.
Is it true?

Eleven now knows his name and shows up whenever I call him! He is getting used to the instructions I give him too. While my hand is on his back and kind of guiding him, he stops, walks or backs up by command. I also help him to understand what I want by moving my hand on his back just like the little kids play with the toy cars.

There has bever been a dangerous moment yet except the time he almost stepped on my feet by mistake. I have been trying to put steel toe shoes since that day if I am going to be around him for long period of time.

Now we trust to each other a little more and I am able to brush all over him so it doesnt look like grass is growing out of his back :)

We also found a puppy a week ago! Her name is Nugget and Eleven is her 'BBF'!

Let me end it with a picture. (I am trying to figure out a way to convert the shed, which is visible on the picture, to Eleven' 'room')

Nugget& Eleven!
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Look at that sweet horse! Eleven looks a LOT better than I expected! You're doing a great job with him! Don't forget to find a good farrier (they are not all good:( and don't forget to have a vet evaluate him (1) so you have a record that you are caring for him. (2) so you know if there are any issues you need to be aware of.

Also get a stool sample (fecal) to the vet and de-worm Eleven according to the vet's instructions:)

And the dog who looks to be at least part Jack Russell?

When the weather gets warm the grass is full of sugar. You would be prudent to remove all the fruits and watch his grass intake so he doesn't get grass founder in his hooves. This is a poor analogy but think the worst case of gout in their big toe anyone has ever told you about and multiply that times a 1,000 pound horse. Founder is extremely painful, it is dangerous, and requires an extreme amount of micro-managing on the part of the owner.

One fruit treat Eleven can have is watermelon and the watermelon rind --- be sure to chop up the rind so he doesn't choke. Watermelon is sweet but it's also 90% water and helps cool a horse down internally (so my vet says). My vet recommended watermelon and chopped rinds for my insulin resistant horse during summer. I mix one cup twice daily in both horses feed pans during the really hot months.

Regarding the shed:

- If it is sitting up on a frame, remove the floor as Eleven's weight will push him thru it.

- if possible, get a single axle dump load of driveway gravel (it's called crush and run in Tennessee) and put it down for a base in the shed.

- you could lay stall mats or restaurant grid mats on top of the gravel, then put a couple inches of shavings on the mats.

- I said all that, hoping your shed doesn't flood when you get a lot of rain:)

- make sure the roof doesn't leak.

- if the sides are metal, reinforce the inside walls from the bottom up four feet with 3/4 treated plywood or hardwood from a lumber mill if you jave a mill close by.

- Eleven might be able to fit thru the man door that's already there. My Walming Horses are 16.1H & 15.3H and both a tad on the portly side. They both easily walk thru the man door on the barn, If Eleven has never done anything like you may have to practice a little. The main thing is to remove the floor if it has one and is off the ground:)

- You may want to consider taking the man door completely off, unless the wind blows really hard in that direction.

Ok, that's my two cents at least three times over:). Keep doing what you're doing and keep asking questions --- Eleven knew where he want to live when he picked you folks:)
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post #16 of 62 Old 01-07-2018, 12:50 AM
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They both are looking good!! Eleven is a bit thin still, but i love the shine his coat has! The little pup is adorable

Would there be enough electric fence to just put up one strand along the top of the existing fence? Shame to keep him confined to a small area, but it would be best if he wasn't able to wander out of your yard.

Did I mention how pretty he is??
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post #17 of 62 Old 01-07-2018, 01:13 AM
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Eleven is looking good, and the puppy is utterly adorable!! Next thing you know, you'll be taking in a stray cow or a cat, or something and name him "Chicken". :wink You'll have "Eleven" "Chicken" "Nugget"

Hold on to what makes you happy! If it tries to buck you off, just hold on even tighter!
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post #18 of 62 Old 01-07-2018, 08:53 AM
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He is lovely. Looks like a Thoroughbred or TBx to me. :)

Keep up the good work, and please, get the ownership asap. Would be horrible for you to lose him after everything you have done.
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post #19 of 62 Old 01-07-2018, 11:55 AM
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In general, it's best to start with forage, which is hay, and then to add on whatever the individual horse might need. Since he is still a bit thin, the added alfalfa is a good idea. Also, since he looks like what we in the horse world would consider a nice looking horse, even though I do see some issues, he looks like he will be worth money as you go along. I hope you have made him legally your horse.
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About legal issues; I recalled the local police station and this is what they told me, if a stray animal is found, the person who found it files a report and waits for 30days to hear something from the owner. If the owner does not show up within 30days, police department lets the stray animal department of the city( i forgot the name of them!) so they come and pick it up then put it on auction but since there are so many animals also not enough logistics to go and pick up every single animal, they ask to the person who found the animal if they want to keep it. So I guess the money they usually get on auction doesnt even break even with the money they spend on the process of doing so and they actually lose money at the end. They kept saying there is nothing to worry about and if anybody tries to claim him, just give them a call with the case number and the person wont be able to take him since it will be over 30days.

Old 'owner' doesnt have any paperwork about him at all. It was his neighbors horse and she was a single lady living out of nowhere. So when she passed away her horse and couple of donkeys were suffering, there was no one/relatives etc shows up or have taken care of the animals so the neighbor took all of those animals. He doesnt have any issues with the donkeys but he did not like the horse for some reason. He kept the horse for almost a year without any paperwork. So there is not a lot more I can do about his paperwork.

Another thing I forgot to write about yesterday was the vet situation. The vet I have been in contact with does not pick up phone calls anymore. I dont know if he got bankrupt or what :/ So now I am looking for a horse trailer to be able to transport him to the vet.

There was a couple riding horses on the street couple of days ago, I met them, they were really helpful and offered some general help whenever I need it. They said Eleven is 'broke' and really gentle (like I said on the first post, he was used to be driven by the little kids of the neighborhood) so I can ride him whenever I get the equipment. Since that day I have been putting some body weight on it whenever I am around him, almost like If I am trying to grab something on the other side of him. He doesnt care at all so I guess we are good until this point :)

I have been watching videos about how to pic a saddle but it look like a huge hassle to find the right size so I dont know if I really want to do that anytime soon. I am lazy on certain stuff lol

I also need to find a good 'how to ride' for 'extra beginers' videos.

Here is the picture of the food I mix together by the way;
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