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post #1 of 11 Old 06-29-2015, 06:04 AM Thread Starter
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English saddle?

I might get this English saddle. But I was curious its an all purpose or what type it is? I'm looking for an all purpose. This is my first English saddle.
And do you think this would fit my mare?
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Hi, It looks like a Wintec? So it will have an adjustable gullet, which is a good point. Means it can be changed to fit different widths. Cannot possibly tell you whether it will fit the horse just from pictures, especially with only those pics & no measurements or such. It does appear your horse is very uneven, especially around the shoulders, which would greatly influence fit, but that could be just the way she was standing & camera angle, for all I know.

Some good info at Balance International on saddle fit.
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I currently have two Wintecs and love them. Looks like an AP to me. Is the saddle local so you could try to fit it to your horse?
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From your pictures there is no way of telling if that saddle will be a good fit or not to the horse or to you.......

As for that changeable gullet system.... not all saddles have that and not all saddles are compatible with the systems used today. Much depends upon the age of the saddle.
Some Wintec saddles I've seen I would swear did not have that type of gullet system.
From what I remember when that gullet system first came on the market I think there were some problems with them, not sure if they were ever resolved...
Do read "fitting your Wintec" as it clearly states which saddles and which templates fit certain production years. There was a change in systems at some point in time and that change could affect you.

From the wintec website.... a link and some excerpt, but there is so much more you should know before buying...especially used!
FAQs - Wintec

How do I tell if my Wintec saddle has the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System?

If your saddle has two large black screws clearly visible in the top of the chamber at the head of the saddle it has the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System. On older models these black screws maybe positioned under the skirt on your saddle.
How do I know if my Wintec saddle has the EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution?

Turn the saddle upside down and look under the pommel, the saddle should have an EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution badge in the chamber. If not, check your saddle’s unique serial number stamped into the underside of the underflap — if the saddle has the letters ‘IP’ stamped within the serial number then the saddle is compatible with both the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System and EASY-CHANGE® Riser System. For more information on the EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution


Do some research before purchasing, trial fit the saddle first for a good fit for your horse. Just because it has "adjustable" doesn't mean it will fit properly...


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Hi, It looks like a Wintec? So it will have an adjustable gullet, which is a good point. Means it can be changed to fit different widths. Cannot possibly tell you whether it will fit the horse just from pictures, especially with only those pics & no measurements or such. It does appear your horse is very uneven, especially around the shoulders, which would greatly influence fit, but that could be just the way she was standing & camera angle, for all I know.

Some good info at Balance International on saddle fit.
It was just the way she is standing. I want to trade it for my Western Saddle and that's cool I didn't know they had those. I had a family member advice to me its not a good trade because I'd trading down? This saddle was offer sale for $75 dollars. I'm trying to sale my Saddle for $200 OBO. My Saddle I don't know much about the brand. It had a few rub marks, is missing a set of saddle strings and you can see some of the stirrup on one. This Wintec comes with stirrups and leathers.
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From your pictures there is no way of telling if that saddle will be a good fit or not to the horse or to you.......

As for that changeable gullet system.... not all saddles have that and not all saddles are compatible with the systems used today. Much depends upon the age of the saddle.
Some Wintec saddles I've seen I would swear did not have that type of gullet system.
From what I remember when that gullet system first came on the market I think there were some problems with them, not sure if they were ever resolved...
Do read "fitting your Wintec" as it clearly states which saddles and which templates fit certain production years. There was a change in systems at some point in time and that change could affect you.

From the wintec website.... a link and some excerpt, but there is so much more you should know before buying...especially used!
FAQs - Wintec

How do I tell if my Wintec saddle has the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System?

If your saddle has two large black screws clearly visible in the top of the chamber at the head of the saddle it has the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System. On older models these black screws maybe positioned under the skirt on your saddle.
How do I know if my Wintec saddle has the EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution?

Turn the saddle upside down and look under the pommel, the saddle should have an EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution badge in the chamber. If not, check your saddle’s unique serial number stamped into the underside of the underflap — if the saddle has the letters ‘IP’ stamped within the serial number then the saddle is compatible with both the EASY-CHANGE® Gullet System and EASY-CHANGE® Riser System. For more information on the EASY-CHANGE® Fit Solution


Do some research before purchasing, trial fit the saddle first for a good fit for your horse. Just because it has "adjustable" doesn't mean it will fit properly...


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Thanks for the information I didn't know any of this
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I currently have two Wintecs and love them. Looks like an AP to me. Is the saddle local so you could try to fit it to your horse?
The saddles three hours away
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It looks like a model that would be adjustable. The earlier ones looked different. Of course depends where you are, but to me, $75 would be a really good price & certainly worth a try IMO. They're also a light(esp compared to a Western) and low maintenance saddle, being synthetic, and I reckon it depends on what you want of the saddle & how it suits your horse & you that's important, not whether you're 'trading down' or some such.
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It was just the way she is standing. I want to trade it for my Western Saddle and that's cool I didn't know they had those. I had a family member advice to me its not a good trade because I'd trading down? This saddle was offer sale for $75 dollars. I'm trying to sale my Saddle for $200 OBO. My Saddle I don't know much about the brand. It had a few rub marks, is missing a set of saddle strings and you can see some of the stirrup on one. This Wintec comes with stirrups and leathers.
Well if you plan on a trade - do the math. Unless this saddle happens to be a great deal in your area for $75, and at the same time you've overpriced yours, then yea could even out for a trade. Otherwise it's pretty obvious you'd be downgrading? Keep in mind I know nothing of your saddle though.

If you're new to english and saddle fitting (seems that way, but please correct me if I am wrong), then please get somebody experienced in english saddle fitting to help you try the saddle on your horse.
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Be aware that while Wintecs are decent enough saddles they have gathered somewhat of a reputation for broken trees, especially around the points where the gullet fastens. Many think that the adjustable gullet is the cause of this - too much stress on the tree.

If you buy a Wintec new it's less of an issue because Wintec does replace them for up to 10 years. However, if you're not the original purchaser the warranty is void.

For me, this is enough that I would not buy a second hand Wintec due to it being difficult to diagnose a cracked tree. If you do decide to buy it try to take the gullet out and look at the tree as much as possible. '

Also - while the gullet does adjust that doesn't mean the saddle fits every horse. So there is no guarantee that it will fit. I rode in a Wintec for years and it didn't suit my current horse and then had the splash out on a new saddle.
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