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post #21 of 29 Old 05-09-2014, 11:45 AM
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Don't overdo the hard feed as a horse's system is designed for long fiber (hay, grass). The horse didn't come into this condition overnight so it's going to take months to bring him back up to weight. When he is you may find him a handful so now is the time to work on his groundwork.



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Argh! People... really. Look at the Irish Horse welfare trust's pages and see how many TBs they have compared to "regular" horses. It is actually quite the opposite of what you think. There is a HUGE drive to rehome TBs here at the moment, racehorse owners have prize money deducted from their account to support the IHWT and the racehorse to riding horse classes have a serious following. Not saying all, but most owners do their upmost to rehome a horse. It isn't the original owner/trainers fault when ignorant people leave these horses in a bad way... but there is an epidemic here of all types being left like that not just TBs.

Also, he is NH bred. I would know of his trainer. NH horses are rarely broke before 3yo/4yo and there is rarely ever a rush to get them onto the racecourse. Most tend to be mannerly, well schooled horses who had done plenty of work on the roads, are well travelled and have seen just about anything a horse can see. Chances are he was at point-to-points, and I know of many who have even gone hunting.

I remember seeing that horse run at Navan.. nice big strong horse. I would make sure to get an "NCT" done on him... he pulled up plenty of times in his races and there may be underlying issues.

There is a product for ulcer prevention/control brought out by TRI - called GNF. It's not THAT expensive, and I've seen some good results from it.
I certainly meant no offense and didn't point my finger at the original owner/trainer. Many ex racers end up like this or worse after being of service to humans and it IS a crying shame, as it is with any horse, ex racer or not.
Mine didn't make the cut, she only made a measly 10k before she was thrown away.
I am very thankful for the programs that rehome them and give them new careers!
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Dia duit, Maple! Do you guys have canola meal in Ireland? Here is Western Australia, where a lot of canola is grown, canola meal is one of the most cost-effective ways of getting weight back on a skinny horse fast - and the glossy coats that result are marvellous! The residual high oil content provides both lots of non-starch calories, and super gloss, and canola also has a good amino acid profile and content to help build muscle back up quickly. Increase gradually, like all new things. I have an old horse losing teeth who is eating 1L of canola morning and night along with soaked cubes, rolled grain and copra meal (also great) in lots of lucerne and oaten chaff. In his case the heavy supplementation with concentrates is keeping him alive, and he nibbles grass in the garden during our dry summers when there's not much he can chew out in the pasture. This means he looks through our windows a lot:



He's ribby now, but have a look at the gloss on him here, last summer, aged 28:

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post #24 of 29 Old 05-09-2014, 07:19 PM
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He's stocking up? If so, get him moving and yes, cold hosing, and I like liniment, Absorbine, more for my hands (makes them feels so rejuvenated) than the horse but I think they like it too.

ETA - seen that vet thinks maybe arthritis, same thing, moving, and yes the liniment.
Any kind of horse liniment for sore muscles will work, not sure of your brands there. Absorbine has menthol in it, smells very herbal, makes my hands and joints tingle, suppose it does the same for the horse's joints.
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Argh! People... really. Look at the Irish Horse welfare trust's pages and see how many TBs they have compared to "regular" horses. It is actually quite the opposite of what you think. There is a HUGE drive to rehome TBs here at the moment, racehorse owners have prize money deducted from their account to support the IHWT and the racehorse to riding horse classes have a serious following. Not saying all, but most owners do their upmost to rehome a horse. It isn't the original owner/trainers fault when ignorant people leave these horses in a bad way... but there is an epidemic here of all types being left like that not just TBs.

Also, he is NH bred. I would know of his trainer. NH horses are rarely broke before 3yo/4yo and there is rarely ever a rush to get them onto the racecourse. Most tend to be mannerly, well schooled horses who had done plenty of work on the roads, are well travelled and have seen just about anything a horse can see. Chances are he was at point-to-points, and I know of many who have even gone hunting.

I remember seeing that horse run at Navan.. nice big strong horse. I would make sure to get an "NCT" done on him... he pulled up plenty of times in his races and there may be underlying issues.

There is a product for ulcer prevention/control brought out by TRI - called GNF. It's not THAT expensive, and I've seen some good results from it.
woh woh wait a minute..you have seen my horse race??? yes he did pull up alot ive found video footage of his races.
What is a NCT?
How do you know of his trainer?
Im not blaming any trainers here for the state that i got him in, i have issues with who ever had him 'after'!
Please reply id like to talk to you xx
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woh woh wait a minute..you have seen my horse race??? yes he did pull up alot ive found video footage of his races.
What is a NCT?
How do you know of his trainer?
Im not blaming any trainers here for the state that i got him in, i have issues with who ever had him 'after'!
Please reply id like to talk to you xx
I saw him race, yes. I recognized his name :) Think it was Punchestown, but I truly can't be sure!!!
I love race horse to riding horse classes, and as I'm sure you know, they are extremely common here in Ireland. It gives breeders some incentive to breed for better conformation, for the horses life after racing. The RDS class last year was really nice. I missed it on the day ( :( ) but I watched it on youtube afterwards. The quality of some of the horses is through the roof! If he has good enough conformation and he isn't too fizzy, he could do them!
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woh woh wait a minute..you have seen my horse race??? yes he did pull up alot ive found video footage of his races.
What is a NCT?
How do you know of his trainer?
Im not blaming any trainers here for the state that i got him in, i have issues with who ever had him 'after'!
Please reply id like to talk to you xx
Yes I saw him. If you want more photos of him look up the healyracing website and go to the date he won. There will be several photos of the line and winners enclosure. The photos arent overly expensive and they are lovely to deal with. Any winners photos I get are with me the next day.

I know of his trainer as I work in racing. One of my good friends would be friendly enough with him.

By NCT I mean an all over examination.... like a car gets an NCT test. Get the vet in and do a major over haul. He could probably do with a physic, which would likely bring on his condition. As mentioned, I've seen good results from GNF, which comes in tubes or granules.
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Yes I saw him. If you want more photos of him look up the healyracing website and go to the date he won. There will be several photos of the line and winners enclosure. The photos arent overly expensive and they are lovely to deal with. Any winners photos I get are with me the next day.

I know of his trainer as I work in racing. One of my good friends would be friendly enough with him.

By NCT I mean an all over examination.... like a car gets an NCT test. Get the vet in and do a major over haul. He could probably do with a physic, which would likely bring on his condition. As mentioned, I've seen good results from GNF, which comes in tubes or granules.
Thank you very much for your reply, i am going to look out some pictures of him it would be lovely to have some of his in his earlier years.
Now i know what you mean by a NCT (your south) Yeah full MOT Ive my vet coming out this week to get one done, as i do also believe that there is a underlying issue going on somewhere.
He has a swollen pastern/fetlock issue which Ive been treating with various things although one vet said its tissue thickening or poss arthritis.
I would just like to find out what happened to him 'after' racing as he was found with a dealer in Larne!
My husbands asking what nag should he watch for this year
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I don't know why but TBs are more prone to stocking up than other breeds. They need to be moving, not stall bound so if you can 24/7 turnout is best.



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