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post #1 of 39 Old 01-14-2018, 02:09 PM Thread Starter
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First Horse maybe? - assist & critique appreciated!

Hiya everyone. I've patiently been waiting to buy my first horse for a year now. I have seen many come and go and not settled on one yet. I'm 29 and ride on a regular basis and have built up some solid friends and professionals that will help guide me once I've gotten going! The woman that supplies and trains the horses for my riding yard today has said a horse has come up that might suit my capability ("advanced" in the sense I can canter confidently but nothing fancy beyond and no jumping yet). I am coming out of the tail end of a traumatic experience and being offered this horse has made me incredibly happy. Being such I would like you to keep my heart from being overwhelmed.

Katie is an 8yr old, 16.2hh paperless(breedwise), suspected draft x irish sports horse(?). She has mainly hunted in Ireland and has records. Not much school work as is usual for Ireland but the trainer herself and my instructor can help me through that. For £250 the trainer will ship Katie down to England for me to try her out. If I buy her that will be deducted from the total price which is estimated at £6000 not including any tack (ouch. I was told that for a horse of her age and experience this is the normal price range). This trainer has supplied over 20 horses to the place I ride and they are renowned for the dressage jumping and eventing locally. Their horses are impeccable and well mannered so with their help I might succeed as well!

Let me know your thoughts. The video and photos are what I have just received (quite literally 10minutes ago). The quality is amazing on my phone but came out horrible online after conversion sorry. Thanks x



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post #2 of 39 Old 01-14-2018, 02:17 PM
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What would you use her for?

As a hunter she MAY be worth it, a good solid type who can pack a grown up all day without getting hot or silly, are worth good money.

If you want to have something to ride in an arena, then she is probably harder work than a totally green horse, she is kind of set in her way of going, and it can be hard to change that.

For a first horse, I would be looking closer to home, one you can try a few times, one that your trainer knows and can vouch for. As to price, I have no idea what they are like over there right now, @Foxhunter maybe able to help more than my ramblings.
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post #3 of 39 Old 01-14-2018, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the response. I should have put what my own goals are haha. I actually would LOVE to hunt (as in the local events that mimic hunts). I'm really open minded as I am not ambitious in the sense of wanting to be the best or show at the highest level. I want to improve towards my strengths and hope to work towards the strength of my horsey individual. As it's a privileged first horse I'm quite happy with ANYTHING :) As for schooling most of the ones where I ride were bought the same and trained by the school owners/instructors. They will be helping me and Katie (if I took her) through this transition.

The trainer has had several horses pass through her but has chosen Katie for her temperament and experience. The others she had have been a bit too green or hot for me and said she would refuse to sell to me even if I was serious about buying. This is the second horse she has recommended to me (the other one sold so fast I didn't stand a chance!).
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Thanks for the response. I should have put what my own goals are haha.
We often forget to mention that in the heat of the moment.

Now actually take the time to write down what is important to you....

Basic stuff, Like, I can cope with attitude, but I will NOT have a horse who rears or bolts, small bucks, yeah, can do them.

Even more basic stuff, what size and shape of horse do you feel most comfortable riding, look for something in that zone, not bigger or smaller.

You have to have a list of things that you will not take on, cribbing, needs special shoes, special diet, anything you don;t want to deal with, then ask those questions.

Next what do I want to do? Buy a horse that can do what you want, I have been frustrated in the past buying horses that I thought I could change, when I should have been looking for a good fit.

LOL, you didn't ask for any of that, but I typed it, so I'm going to post.....to make it relevant, look at that mare and imagine riding her, really imagine it, if it feels good then try her maybe. She looks honest and cute!

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You should also think of the possibility of the horse becoming too boring for you too quick. Don't take "the first" horse just because you want to have one asap (we have all been there :) ) I'm sure you can find a good temperament under £6000 (I mean £6000 a normal price - really??).
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post #6 of 39 Old 01-14-2018, 03:00 PM
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You should also think of the possibility of the horse becoming too boring for you too quick. Don't take "the first" horse just because you want to have one asap (we have all been there :) ) I'm sure you can find a good temperament under £6000 (I mean £6000 a normal price - really??).
That is such a hard balance isn't it?

Buy a horse that is too much for you, you risk losing the enjoyment of riding, or being hurt. Buy a horse that is too boring, you may 'grow out' of him...

Of the two, err on the side of caution, more chance of spicing up the laid back horse and less risk......so many things to think about.
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If I did the math right - that's around 8K USD. She is a good looking horse, looks to be a good mover. Her tail swish COULD mean she's got more energy and maybe spirit than we are seeing but she could be worth that price. I've never paid that much for a horse but I'm not saying thats a bad price. She's 8 years old and looks like she has some miles on her. She's solid built, sound and healthy. Those are all pluses.

For that price I would vet check her first though.

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I mean look what there is out there already in England. I'm drooling here.

15HH 5 Year old Fantastic Piebald mare For Sale in Helston, Cornwall | Preloved

16hh ISH Mare For Sale. For Sale in Manchester, Lancashire | Preloved

What is the minimum and maximum age?
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post #9 of 39 Old 01-14-2018, 03:11 PM
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That is such a hard balance isn't it?

Buy a horse that is too much for you, you risk losing the enjoyment of riding, or being hurt. Buy a horse that is too boring, you may 'grow out' of him...

Of the two, err on the side of caution, more chance of spicing up the laid back horse and less risk......so many things to think about.

Yes, you're so right. Buying a first horse is especially tough business. I'm definitely not advocating taking too much risks. Gut feeling is extremely important and common sense. But I also think one should buy exactly the breed/type they want - just screen well.
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the still photo shows a horse with a nice bascule going over the jump, knees tucked up tidily, even thought the rider is way too far forward, weighting down horse's front end.

the video shows a horse with a fairly forward willingness. horse appears rythmic in movement, thus likely sound. horse is stiff going left and maintains a bend to the right. short thick neck may make for some inflexibility and her having the power to tank off is she wants to. but, seems like a nice, honest horse. I rather like her. If you trust your trainer, then the trainer's recommendation is worth a lot, and if the mare is young enough, you could keep her for a few years then sell her on if she become not enough horse for you.

She is pretty drafty, so you have to like what draft horses are all about.
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