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post #31 of 39 Old 01-17-2018, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you @AnitaAnne and @jaydee I agreed to do a 2 hour 5 stage vet check + xrays (which I forgot to mention above). I wanted xrays done just "because" to see where she was at her current point and if we buy her a comparison for anything that might crop up down the road.

I will definitely do some research on melanomas. I've been brushing up on everything I can! I do have a question that I can't really decide on as I am still searching liveries in the event of a buy. I have the option of 24/7 turnout no stable or just day turnout with overnight stable. With full turnout she would be in a herd with other mares but most of them will be coming in at night and she would be left. I am unsure how many mares are full turnout at this point. OR I can have just day turnout with evening stable. I gotta pick one and I'm not sure :<

As for hacking I will be going with my trainer initially. I am planning on doing a LOT more hacks at my riding school with emphasis on learning a good gallop and control. I have hacked a fair bit and had a few gallops (some just plain out bolts) but have never yet hacked ALONE. I would rather learn the route with a partner for a few times before I attempt it. But I'm very excited!
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I do have a question...
I have the option of 24/7 turnout no stable or just day turnout with overnight stable. With full turnout she would be in a herd with other mares but most of them will be coming in at night and she would be left. I am unsure how many mares are full turnout at this point. OR I can have just day turnout with evening stable. I gotta pick one and I'm not sure :<
It is winter where you are also?
What kind of stabling does the mare come from?
That right there would make my decision.


If you don't know her previous stabling conditions...
Personally, I would do daytime turnout and return to a warm, dry stall for night.
Most horses truly are good if not fantastic with a few hours a day of turnout time.
You don't mention if grass is plentiful and growing, hay rolls are provided 24/7 or is this just a dirt environment that can get real mushy, boggy and just yucky.
Shelter...is there a formidable shelter in the field/paddock she could get into if she needed/wanted?
If you were to put her out 24/7 do you have appropriate rugs/blankets for weather protection from biting winds and rain/sleet/snow as that is what horses seriously do not tolerate well for very long.
Now after asking the questions you need to find answers to...

The plus of a inside stall at night is first off security she is not alone outside or even with just a few horses and no one watching what is happening overnight.
She will be fed hay, possibly feed at night so you are guaranteed she gets to eat at least one meal hassle-free and completely hers to enjoy.
If your location is really wet, inside a stall she would have the opportunity to dry-off and dry-out her body, her feet and that is important to help as you work to stay ahead of bacterial infections of feet{thrush} which keeps her healthier and sound as bad thrush can create unsoundness.
Company, period.
She will have companionship if she goes inside...she won't share a stall{normally}, but she will share a environment and know other horses are near she can smell, hear if not see.
If she is inside, it gives you the opportunity to go see her in evenings to groom and spend time with her, let a lone ride her if your stable has indoor or lit night riding facilities.

For right now, being winter time...my choices would be inside at night.
In summer, when more are also out 24/7 I would reconsider that option...
Winter....no 24/7 living out.
The horse needs a break too from the weather conditions whatever they are daily.
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post #33 of 39 Old 01-17-2018, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks @horselovinguy . I live in southern England, UK. She was kept on turnout with access to a stable as far as I'm aware. There isn't a shelter in the fields that I'm looking at. My gut was telling me it'd be pretty sad if other horses came in at night and she was left out. Since it obviously is a wet country the foot thing is actually a point I hadn't even thought of in depth (**** I'm so glad to have you guys!). I know it but it's just a lot to remember all at once. Extra hay is provided in the winter months.

Am just looking at a bunch of rugs as we speak :P She is a 6'9 >.< I have budgeted for this very moment though and knew what was coming in buying the essentials haha. It is taking all my will power to NOT buy anything as nothing is guaranteed until that vet check! I was reading that sidebone is quite common in drafts as mentioned. It has me a little disheartened. :<
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! I was reading that sidebone is quite common in drafts as mentioned. It has me a little disheartened. :<
Do not buy trouble till it positively knocks on your door....
Just because it happens to some does not mean she has it...be informed, be knowledgeable and then ask of the professional {vet} advice, suggestion and recommendations.
Make no decisions till you know for sure though, but good to do some footwork of what is available and what are the costs, the good & bad on boarding...
Good luck.
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Don't put the horse in a pasture in winter with no shelter. It's just miserable. Pasture daytime, barn at night is perfect.
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Not all Draught types get sidebone but they do tend to occur in heavier horses that do a lot of hard work on the roads - and that is something that happens out hunting. When out hunting even though I always tried to stay on a grass verge when we weren't crossing fields I've often had to canter on roads and have done a lot of trotting on roads, even jumped from roads over hedges or fences into fields. Its just something to be aware of.
I've never yet had a grey horse that didn't develop melanoma's at some point in its life. Mostly they will live with them with no problems but occasionally they do become a danger to the horse. I lost one horse at quite young age due to them going internally so its something to be concerned about. It wouldn't put me off buying a grey horse that didn't have them but I wouldn't buy one that did have them as you wouldn't be able to then claim anything off an insurance policy relating to melanomas
Re. the livery
I believe in horses being out as much as possible but speaking as someone who spent most of their life in the UK I wouldn't keep a horse in the UK on grass livery (no stable) unless the yard owners always had stables available for emergency situations. I've had a couple of UK friends this year who've had to move their horses to a new yard with stabling because they had terrible mud fever. It isn't always easy to relocate quickly, they were lucky. Horses seem to seek ways to injure themselves so you never know when you might need that stable, plus its somewhere dry to have the horse seen by a farrier, to be fed, groomed and checked over and seen by a vet.
Re. Rugs (blankets). If she's hunted this season then I assume she's at least trace clipped so will need to be blanketed.
I find Premiere Equestrian rugs to be a really generous size so suit the draft crosses and cobs really well. I found I had to order a size smaller compared to the Weatherbeeta rugs. They're a helpful company so you can always call them for advise on measuring.

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post #37 of 39 Old 01-20-2018, 09:26 AM
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Okay, I started reading this in the middle and then scooted back to the start to see the videos, so I don't even know what the latest information on this girl is, but... I have to post, because I'm gone! I'm over! I LOVE this horse! Love this horse!

She is... nothing special, probably, and vet checks would be really important before buying her, but I love her! Done deal! What a face!! So I am already horribly biased, so erase and delete EVERYTHING I have just said. You have gotten some really good advice here, and so pay attention to that, and ignore my emotional, groundless opinion. But I really like her.

Often a vet check won't tell you yes or no, it will just help point out issues or potential issues so that you can take them into consideration before you buy.
So just see what happens.

Fuzzbutton is right: shelter is really important. My horses always had shelter, except for one year when we had the materials to build a barn but our boat crashed and sank and we had no money or time to erect it. My Arab and my Percheron lived out ALL YEAR in the ice and snow with blankets, and they did okay, but it was truly miserable. I really thought I should have sold them.

Even with lots of shelter, when it storms, my horses often went outside and stood in the blizzard until it iwas over, then walked into their stalls to poop. Of my guys - two Arabs, an off the track Thoroughbred, a quarter cross, a pony, a Percheron and a Haflinger, all but the Percheron did this. The Perchie liked his comfort.
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@Captain Evil I'm so happy you posted! Everyone who has met Katie has instantly fallen in love with her. I want to let you know as well that I had to start a new thread as I actually DID pay for Katie to come over on Wednesday. I trial rode her and she's forward, not crazy supple, but managed a beautiful canter in a smaller circle (wet muddy ground sadly) on both leads! I had her vet checked yesterday - the full 5 stage vet check AND a full set of leg xrays. She's clean. It's actually a miracle and even the vet was impressed. I cannot wait to take pictures of her feet either as her frogs are so beautifully intact and everything is so neat (sounds funny writing about that haha).

The new thread (in which I basically cannot prevent myself from shutting up haha) is here: https://www.horseforum.com/new-horses...ciding-786663/
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cant wait to see photos, and so glad she vets clean. I like her! she's got a sort of . . . class to her.
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