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post #11 of 25 Old 08-27-2014, 08:13 AM
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When the barn is empty of other people? Why?
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post #12 of 25 Old 09-01-2014, 02:45 AM Thread Starter
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When the barn is empty of other people? Why?
He gets easily distracted, and will focus on everything going on around him instead of whoever is trying to work with him. He'll try to pull you around, or shove you out of the way. Sometimes just move to run you over if you try to catch his attention again. Half the time, I don't even think he realizes it. Plus, they aren't always respectful of our working time, even if I am of theirs with their horses. They'll slam gates, walk through the pen right by him, try to "help" which seems to always end even worse, etc. It's better for us both to be one on one (with the man giving me advice) for now until we're at least working better together. Yesterday, someone slammed a gate while I was putting him into his new pen, and he tried to rear right by my little sister (who was just holding our gate open for him) and almost barreled me over. Luckily, he calmed down rather quickly this time due to me somehow being able to talk calmly to him and relax him. But, I don't want anyone, or him, getting hurt because of an incident like that. Right now, for all of us, it's safer to do it without others around. Once he's more comfortable with everything going on and his new surroundings, I won't mind. But, I'm not willing to chance someone or him being hurt due to being distracted or from fear... You know? And that is pretty much what the guy giving me training tips had warned me about.
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post #13 of 25 Old 09-01-2014, 03:15 AM
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Yesterday, someone slammed a gate while I was putting him into his new pen, and he tried to rear right by my little sister (who was just holding our gate open for him) and almost barreled me over. Luckily, he calmed down rather quickly this time due to me somehow being able to talk calmly to him and relax him.
OK that is one way, BUT, I want my horse to be more scared of creating a social faux pas of getting in my space, or anyone elses than being scared. I own a very reactive Arab mare, and we have had a few false starts in our training, but the one thing I have insisted on from the start, I don't care if the sky is falling in, and you are in fear of your life, you DO NOT get in my space.

My round pen is right by the farm workshop, she has had to learn her lessons while coping with real life happening around her, and she, being an arab, is smart enough to get it. Juts remember there is a fine line between calm reassurance, and confirming to the horse that there was indeed something to be worried about, and you want to avoid that at all costs. I learned that one the hard way.
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post #14 of 25 Old 09-01-2014, 08:33 AM
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I would suggest putting this horse on a good magnesium supplement. Give it about 3 months before you say it isn't working.
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post #15 of 25 Old 09-02-2014, 02:37 PM
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I rescued an 10 yr old Arabian Mare who spent the previous 6-7 years of her life as a pasture orniment. She had terrible manners and invaded my personal space as well and wanted to run me over. I started with Parelli lessons and doing ground work with the "carrot stick"--also sometimes known as the handy stick--and worked on the ground with him on personal space. I feel I gained the most respect and understanding not to be in my space by making her back up when she did something i didnt want her to do (by tapping aggressivly on the ground walking towards her) and using the "release" (stopping the tapping and walking) as her reward. I also try and never back up in front of my horse because it shows a sign of submission.

I am a FIRM believer of ground work for a mannerless horse. It has worked wonders for me and my unrully mare!
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post #16 of 25 Old 09-02-2014, 02:53 PM
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you may want to invest in Clinton Anderson groundwork dvds. one of the mares he works with in a grouchy old brood mare who would LOVE to kick him. She reminds me of my arab at times and it helped me.
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post #17 of 25 Old 09-30-2014, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
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I took my time getting him used to the idea of working with me before adding in the extra distractions. Now, I can work him with all kinds of noises, horses working, etc. I know he needed to be exposed to distractions, but I didn't want to start with those. I wanted an area where it was just us and the horse before getting to the point where I could get him to focus on me with all kinds of crazy going on. I really didn't want someone to get hurt if I couldn't turn his attention back to me at the time. It was entirely possible. I decided baby steps was the best way to start, and it worked for the better. No one was hurt, and he now knows he has to listen to me even if there's lots of activity at the barn.
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post #18 of 25 Old 09-30-2014, 11:26 PM Thread Starter
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I watched lots of videos, and had someone helping as well. It definitely helped a lot! We're almost ready to start with the saddle part...but, I'm going to wait until I move him to the new place for that one. Right now, I'm struggling with trying to work him when he hasn't been fed. I've tried giving him some extra grain, not enough to mess with his stomach, but to take the edge off until someone arrived to unlock the hay room (this place is crazy, I swear!) and it didn't help. He isn't getting nearly enough hay or grass to keep him full and happy. It's definitely making things more difficult. I'm hoping once he is settled into the new place and is fed properly, we can work a little better and try then. It all depends on him though.
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post #20 of 25 Old 10-01-2014, 01:22 AM
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I can see giving him a bit of time to settle in to a new place , since you just bought him, right? but, a day or two should suffice.

stop looking at external things as reasons for why you cannot expect him to pay attention to you. to get a hrose's attention, you must become IMPORTANT. right now, every thing that rattles a gate is more important to him. that would make me a bit angry, to be honest, and it would help me become big enough to make that horse look at me like, "hey!? what's this right here? I better pay attention, 'cause it's something important!"

Start rattling the gate louder than the other guy!
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