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post #11 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 01:59 AM
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Darkpony, your post made me chuckle! I can tell that you like the cold! Very unlike me. xD The snow is pretty but I'd rather see it from inside, lmao! You got very lucky only getting two feet. I'm jealous. We had a lot of it down further south, especially last winter. Although I guess I was thinking more cumulatively. Last year just killed it for me. Overall it's a guessing game as to what you'll get for winter at least where I live. There are years where it's snowed for Halloween in October and for my birthday in April. (Not much but enough to where it's cold enough that the kids have to wear coats over their costumes.) Then you have those years where you don't even get flurries until Christmas. This last year was just snowstorm after snowstorm though. I still haven't forgiven that. ;) I've done some traveling this summer and it is funny how you can drive 3 or 4 hours north or south and have completely different weather. But I'm glad you posted, I don't tend to think of winter as a positive experience lol!

Anyways, sorry for all the weather talk! If you are curious about weather stuff I suggest googling heat index maps of the US. I think you can find them for other stuff like snow and whatnot as well. :)

Sales tax is not too bad here, 5.5% usually and if I go over the border into IL it's 6.5% so I can't complain about that. We have high property taxes but you can apply for homestead tax credits. Gas isn't too bad, right now it's about $3.50.

There are lots of shows all over the state for different disciplines and it seems like I've met a few people who do both English and Western so that's kind of nice.
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post #12 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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Never thought about the midwest. I love the cold, but I've never really experienced real cold, living in Dallas my whole life, so I think it might be a bit different once I've lived there for a while .

Anyways, I haven't looked up anything on Kiplinger yet, but a 5.5% sales tax isn't bad. I grew up in Dallas with an 8.25% sales tax. The state sales tax is 6.25%. I know little about income tax, and less about property tax, so that is something that I will have to look into.
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post #13 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 08:46 AM
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What don't you like about where you live? Having lived or traveled all over the U.S. I have found there are pluses and minuses to each and every part of the country. Is it perhaps the unpredictability that you dislike? I spent a number of years living and primarily working between Stephenville/Dublin, Dallas/Ft. Worth (spent a lot of time in Dennison/Durant, OK) and Austin though my job took me all over the state and into New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado and Oklahoma. I went to school in College Station and spent several years working in Houston living in Sugarland before heading north. I'd much rather be in Texas. I'd say look at north Mississippi and north Alabama.
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post #14 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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Mostly it's the climate. I have a low heat tolerance, and HATE thunderstorms. I like the people well enough, even if politically and religiously we're not always on the same page. The land in Texas is varied enough that I can probably find something that I like. I'm a little naive when it comes to taxes and finances, but that is something that I'll figure out as I strike out into the world more.
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post #15 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 10:47 AM
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If you have low heat tolerance, either avoid the SE states or plant yourself on higher elevation.

For example, I live in the Tennessee Valley, a/k/a The Basin. I'm an hour north of the Alabama border.

There are times we get enough heat & humidity to make the folks in Louisiana cringe.

When the dew points start moving beyond 60, "oppressive" is the word of the day. Mr. WTW tolerates it so well, he spent all day Sunday weed whacking then loading the weeds into the dump cart and hauling them to the burn pile. I, on the other hand, stayed in the A/C and waited until 6:30 PM to clean stalls with three big tub fans aimed at me.

Also, "Basin" areas beget allergies for both human and animals. We live with stale air during the summer until a good straight line wind comes along and blows it up & over the Cumberland Plateau.

Which segways into ---- The Cumberland Plateau. Cooler up there. Big South Fork is up there (lots of horse trails), and depending which end of the plateau, you're not too far from Knoxville or Chattanooga for employment.

There are still a few states that enforce personal property tax. Meaning they put a value on your personal belongings and assess tax accordingly

I believe Kentucky is still one of those few states. At any rate, that is something else to put on your financial check list.

The more rural the county you live in, the less assessments. The more "developed" counties often have vehicle inspections, smog inspections, yadda yadda. Whereas you might escape those fees in the more rural counties since most states allow each county to assess the need for those kinds of control.

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post #16 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 10:52 AM
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Is it heat, humidity or the combination. You may be more comfortable further out west where humidity is lower but heat is higher or on par with where you are at. Maybe try a higher altitude?
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post #17 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 10:54 AM
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BKLD, you sound just like me! I HATE heat, LOVE cold, and am terrified of severe thunderstorms.
Personally, I love Kentucky. Lived here for the majority of my life, in numerous places. It's beautiful here, and there are horses pretty much everywhere. Depending on where you live, trails are usually never that far. Most barns have them right on property. Cost of living isn't bad at all, and you won't pay a million dollars for enough land to keep your horse at home. It's actually very horse-oriented in many parts, especially just south of Lexington, which homes the Kentucky Horse Park, dubbed the "Horse Capital of the World."
I've traveled quite a bit, and can't find anywhere I love more than Kentucky.
As for the climate, you truly get all seasons. It gets pretty cold in the winter, it's beautiful in spring and fall, and the summers usually just barely get into the 90's, though we're in a very mild summer now - it's only around 70.
The humidity isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to places like Louisiana or surrounding its nothing like that. It can get a little sticky, but it's mostly very tolerable.
The storms can get very frightening, but it's very hilly here so the severe stuff usually breaks up or has a hard time starting.
Food for thought!
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There are still a few states that enforce personal property tax. Meaning they put a value on your personal belongings and assess tax accordingly

I believe Kentucky is still one of those few states. At any rate, that is something else to put on your financial check
We are not on that list, as far as I know :) We are definitely in a more rural part of KY though.

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I'm in So Cal. And yes, I am here because my husband's job keeps us here.

Plus:
Prop 13. Property here is expensive, but if you get a more rural place it's not to bad.
Employment. This is a huge area, a good place to start a career in general.
Horse areas. Yes, there are a lot of them.
Trails. Everywhere. We have national forests and parks, where I ride is equestrian and hikers only, no bikes or off road.
I ride year round.

Cons:
It can be very expensive unless you live like me. No central air, clothes on line to dry, etc.
Hay is sky high and quality is often iffy.
Depending on your area, summers can get hot. If you are out in the desert, 110. If you don't like the heat you can go to the mountains, or closer to the coast. Humidity is generally low.

You are smart to look around before making a decision. When I was young, business always dictated where I went.
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post #20 of 32 Old 07-17-2014, 11:12 AM
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I'm going to also be a voice for Oregon, but not the Willamette Valley. I live in Central Oregon where we actually do get 4 seasons, not as much rain, more snow (but not a LOT, we got 2 feet this year which is rare). No sales tax and the property taxes out here are MUCH more reasonable. BLM and Forest Service lands are intermingled everywhere and there is a good chance you will find property that adjoins it, allowing you to trail ride without trailering. The Cascade Mountains, the Ochoco Mountains, the Blue Mountains, the High Desert, Badlands, many rivers and canyons. There is so much choice! Rodeo is fairly common, but there are also a few good show barns,m English or Western around. The hay is great quality (it gets shipped over to the Willamette Valley for their performance horses). Because it is fairly dry, thrush, scratches and heaves are less likely to be problems. Also, the soil is sandy, with little clay, so when my horses roll, they just have to be brushed off, no red stains like the Jory clay soils on the West side of the state.

What can I say, I love Central Oregon!
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