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post #11 of 30 Old 10-09-2015, 01:55 PM
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Oh he doesn't look bad at all! He's a diamond in the rough. He will clean up well

I agree- he looks like he's a bit undermuscled, instead of underweight.
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Thanks everyone for putting it in perspective! Interesting that melanomas in grey horses aren't as bad a diagnosis as I assumed. Also interesting to see comments on it being more a muscle building issue than simply weight. If it works out and I end up trying him, I'll read up on the muscle building links...
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post #13 of 30 Old 10-09-2015, 02:00 PM
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I'll read up on the muscle building links...
There's a link in my signature on some different techniques... and they work!
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post #14 of 30 Old 10-09-2015, 02:08 PM
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Just regular riding will take care of most of it.
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There's a link in my signature on some different techniques... and they work!
Yes I saw that - thank you if it works out I'll peruse them.
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post #16 of 30 Old 10-09-2015, 02:09 PM
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Charlie is grey, due to the fact I did not realize her sire carried the greying gene, when breeding to him via transported semen (just looked like a black leopard in App Journal. I now know that the greying gene can act at different rates in Apps, on base coat or any markings
Anyway, she is fine so far, at age 11, but I would never purposely buy a grey horse
Yes, melanoma is usually way less malignant in them that in people, or than in non grey horses, for that matter. Non greys can get melanoma, but it is way less common.
\There is a theory that since grey horses have been around for along time, after that first mutation, and people even selecting for them, that they built in some sort of protective mechanism, far as controlling how aggressive melanoma is in them (most times )
Even if that melanoma does not get deadly, far as spreading to vital organs, there still remains the fact that there can be growths that obstruct the bowel, etc I would not purposely buy a grey horse, but that is just me
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post #17 of 30 Old 10-09-2015, 02:42 PM
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I am new here (esp about horse breeds/care/conformation etc).. but I gotta say to someone that doesn't have a very good horse eye I think he's gorgeous! As someone who has got over 80 different animals (all rescues as a result of family vet business) that sometimes you just gotta take a leap of faith. Any kind of love is always a risk x
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I think he really has promise. I couldn't see the image at first and read all the comments about him being under muscled. Then I saw the picture----he does not look nearly as under muscled as I had imagined. I can see he has the basis for more muscle so I would expect him to improve a lot with groceries and exercise.

If it were me, I would have a talk with at least two vets about the melanoma concern, ask how they can check him out for it (can blood tests be done like for humans?) and what they think of him. There is no guarantee one way or the other, and if you only got 4 good years of riding out of him wouldn't that put you ahead no matter what?

A willing, laid back horse that lets you enjoy riding is worth that kind of risk, IMO.
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I'd go for it personally! I own a grey mare who had a cancerous melanoma surgically removed ~9 years ago. She has 3 others currently, all benign. I've had her 12+ years, and she's older now, long life as a broodmare before I bought her. I can think of 1, maybe 2, horses that I've heard of locally in the past 10-15 years that have needed put down due to melanomas - and I know of at least 10 horses in the past 2-3 years put down due to lameness issues (3 being broken legs). Honestly, IMHO I'm not super worried about melanomas. IF the horse develops them they are usually nothing to worry about, and if they are cancerous they can generally be removed as was the case with my mare.
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I agree that this horse is not thin -- just a little 'light'. I think he is nice looking gelding. Do you know how old he is? I like him -- a lot.

I can speak from experience. We currently have over 20 gray horses since we used to have two gray stallions. Two of our 5 yearlings are turning gray. We have raised mostly gray horses for almost 50 years. My first stallion was a gray son of Quick M Silver.

In all of these years, we have not lost one horse to melanomas. We have had 3 or 4 with small ones under their tails and one that had a huge one when i bought her (next to her rectum). She was 22 when I bought her and was one of the last living daughters of Gray Badger II. She produced a World Champion roping horse that was J.D. Yeats first World Champion back in the 70s.

I even had several gray Arabians back in the 70s. All of this time and I have never had a problem with melanomas. I've had small melanomas frozen off of 2 horses in more than 50 years, but they were not causing problems. Every gray horse I even know of has died of something else except 1 belonging to a friend of mine that they put down.

My Vet says a horse is at least 100X more likely to die of colic than cancer.
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