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post #21 of 33 Old 04-11-2015, 10:58 AM
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Maybe section him down and get him used to expecting a treat when he comes to you when you call him. I'd even take a bucket if food and shake it, then whilst he's eating I'd pat his shoulder and put a leadrope round his neck as I gave him a hug to stop him running away I'd also double fence round his little paddock and electrify it so he cant jump out. Patience is key. They get better when foods involved, honestly!
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post #22 of 33 Old 04-11-2015, 12:37 PM
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Chasing him and sectioning him is a waste of time now he's figured out he can just jump out
It actually bothers me that a child safe first ridden pony would panic and bolt off because a dog jumped through the fence - the most it should do is hop on the spot and look startled. What if that had happened out on a hack?
I know I'm going off track a bit here - but I'd also say that its spring and in the UK the grass is coming through like rocket fuel - not good for a little Welsh A pony as they are very very prone to laminitis
If you can get the pony in a stable keep it in there for a week and then make some sort of a corral area using taller posts and electric tape that it can't jump over. You can extend the area it has once its got over this nonsense but keep the grazing to a minimum and get the pony into a routine where it gets a small feed at least once a day in the stable regardless of whether or not its ridden
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post #23 of 33 Old 04-11-2015, 08:55 PM
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While out helping my friend catch her crazy green horse, she advised me this... If her horse runs from me, don't chase/follow it. But rather 'make' it run - slap the rope on your leg - drive the horse. She said this changes the horse from thinking you are chasing it to you being the one making it run. She said it was just a simple trick to change the horses perspective on who is controlling the situation and it worked. Once we stopped 'driving' the horse it allowed us to walk right up to it.

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post #24 of 33 Old 04-11-2015, 09:24 PM
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Take away his water and food. It sounds bad, but it works.

Make sure that once you do catch him walk him out and release him again, catch him several times before working him. You don't want to anticipate work. However this is the concept that makes the running him until he lets himself get caught work: you want it to seem very peaceful when he is near you and uncomfortable when he is away from you. Don't give him treats until after he is caught! Positive REINFORCEMENT, you are REINFORCING a behavior not coaxing him, otherwise like you said he takes the treat and runs away.

The thing about running him you have to be mindful of is your body language and HIS body language. Relax (stop chasing him and show him your "flank") if he licks/chews, or if he faces you. Walk towards him, keeping your eyes down and kinda in a diagonal (otherwise it is seen as aggression). If he walks away from you chase him HARD again. If he takes any steps in your direction or has his head follow you stop and wait for a minute. I like this method if you either have him in a small space OR if you have multiple people with you. Personally, I worry about this method as you really do need a professional who knows how to do it-- it's not something to try as an amateur.
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post #25 of 33 Old 04-11-2015, 10:04 PM
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I feed my horses every day in a pen. If they don't come in to the pen or the barn, they are out of luck. I often put a halter on them even if I don't intend to make them work. It works well for me. All my horses are easy to catch. It requires bribery. I wouldn't go to work if I didn't get paid, and I don't expect my horse to either.
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The method I described to catch a horse, or rather have the horse come to you, has worked for an elusive and on a horse that was white-eyed afraid of people. It requires patience on the handler's part, to get mad will undo what you are trying to do.



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post #27 of 33 Old 04-14-2015, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
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A little update I went with the ignore him and get on with field management he ignored me briefly but began following me around especially when I started eating extra strong mints :) we have got to the point where he let me groom him do his feet and adjust his head collar today all without tying him up at the moment. Have been carrying a lead rope around for a couple of days and will try and hook him on this week at some point I'm pleased and think he may be returning to himself and trusting me now but an happy to take it slow and make sure. Thank you for all your positive advice I think he just needed to recognise me as a new person to trust :)
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Oh and as for his being scared of the dogs I actually think I fuelled that as I was worried and shouted to the owner - I think this is maybe what panicked him as his previous owner assured me he's good with dogs but when we are ready my little girls teacher and experienced trainer will come over to supervise her first few rides - I also have 2 dogs and will eventually bring them down but people walk dogs past the field all the time and they don't worry him. I guess with me scaring him that is also why I have had a problem with catching him again- it's a learning curve and in a way in grateful for the experience it has taught me a lot especially as I'm planning on 2 more ponies eventually thank you again.
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Thank you for the update and feedback, blackthornpony.

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post #30 of 33 Old 04-14-2015, 07:57 PM
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Thanks for the update
I hope things work well - but a word of caution from someone who know from experience - just because a pony rides quietly when you try it unless you or someone you know and trust is well acquainted with it always have a bit of doubt in your mind as to whether or not the seller was being honest. Its good that you're getting the trainer on board as I still feel concerned that a bombproof child's pony should have over reacted like that and still be stringing it along
When I think of the way I treated my ponies and my kids did much the same with theirs your pony seems rather unusual for what I'd want in a first pony
Good luck, hope its just a glitch
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