Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel View Post
If the horse is moving away from the mounting block, lunging them as a "correction" gives them exactly what they want: to move away from the block.
that depends on why the horse is moving away from the mounting block.
is he moving away becuase he is scared or anxious about you being over his back or above his head, or you getting too close to his vulnerable hindquarters?
or is his just so savvy that he knows he can keep you from mounting, and thus keep from work, by swinging his butt out.?
If there is a fear issue, then I would not approach him with any sort of "punishment" idea. no thought of "making" him do anything. I'd probably work on hiaving him near me as I stand on the block, move my hands around a bit, and not worry too much about his hind end, but work on having him ok with me close to his front, then progressively work back. Or, get on the ground and do some work just touching his hind end, and throwing a rope up on him or brushing him with your sweater, and if he needs to move around a bit, let him, until he doesn't feel so worried about it. this might be too much for someone of your level to try, but I'm mentioning it to add it to the discussion.
if the horse is savvy and naughty, I'd feel a lot firmer with him, and maybe I d make him move around a bit and try again, but it would be a fast/hard move around, not a stroll.
My approach isn't to punish the horse, but to keep setting the horse up where I want him to be, and then proceeding to the next step. This works with fearful horses
As for horses being naughty, depending on the horse, it also tends to work. But if a horse moves while you're trying to mount by only stepping up on the block, they are creating distance between themselves and the block. If you then chase a horse away from the block, you create more distance and also get them hyped up. Or if you get off the block and calmly go lunge the horse, then that does absolutely nothing to help with the standing while mounted issue.
This is just from my experience, I'm not a professional but I have dealt with a few problem horses, younger horses, and stubborn lesson horses. I didn't see any benefit from chasing them off because that is what they wanted to do, but it may work for some just not for the horses I've worked with.
ETA: If he swings his butt away from the block then I'd keep asking him to yield his butt quickly, while I stood on the block, until he felt he was done. If he then tried to pull me off the block, I'd keep directing him until he stood still by the block. If he did, then he got to stand quietly.
There are probably flaws in what I do, but it's been successful so far with the horses I've worked with. Especially my initially terrified/spooky/uneducated horse.