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post #31 of 41 Old 04-22-2015, 01:53 PM
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Thanks, Jimmyp. I am nervous because that horse is a spoiled brat and has no manners. Sure, he learns quickly but still..
Ebony, I get that you're concerned about your brother, but really, this is a time to mind your own business and let your brother do as he will.

I get being the younger sibling no one listens to, even when you just may know what you're talking about. I'm the youngest of four. My siblings are five, ten and thirteen years older than me. You can give them suggestions until you're blue in the face, but you'll always be the "annoying little sister" who doesn't know as much as they do. You have to learn to just step back and let the train wreck happen, unless and until they specifically ask for your help. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for frustration and they will just become annoyed with you and resent you more.
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post #32 of 41 Old 04-23-2015, 05:44 PM
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Haven't read other replies.

Since when does getting bucked off and laughing about it = able to train a horse? REALLY!?

I've started many greenies and babies over the years, bucked off and come off more times than I can count. I'm not saying I'm downright amazing by any means, but I've been there done that. I wound up in a complete freak accident off my dead quiet mare - I broke my back in two places, slipped disc, sprained neck, nasty concussion and permanent hearing loss. This was ~4 years ago. I STILL suffer the effects of that accident every single day. NOTHING I could have done would have changed the outcome of that accident. It wasn't my fault, nor was it my mares fault. We were walking when it happened.

Bottom line - it doesn't matter how experienced you are, accidents will happen. You can do everything right and it can still so easily happen. The effects of that are permanent. Your brother falling off and laughing mean squat.

I also hope you know that bucking doesn't in any way = green.
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post #33 of 41 Old 04-26-2015, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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I never said he could train him. I don't want him to train him for that reason. Please don't get mad at me for things I didn't say. :(

Anyway...things were going good until Joker had his farrier visit. He was a pain! Cut open the farriers hand!! Luckily, our farrier is awesome. He knows a ton about horses and was able to finally get him to stop rearing and everything long enough to do his front feet and the minimum on his back. He flat out told my brother, "This horse is a bonehead and used to getting what he wants. He's going to be dangerous, but if you can get that boneheadedness working on your side, this is going to be an awesome horse."
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post #34 of 41 Old 04-26-2015, 07:36 PM
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^ I suppose I completely misunderstood the bolded part then. =)

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Okay, so here is the story. My dad works with this guy that is losing his house. He has a horse and if the horse is still there when the house is auctioned off, the horse will be auctioned as well. So, we took him in. He is 11, cute as can be, but...not trained!! He can lead and groom. That's it. He isn't dangerous, just doesn't know anything. Getting him into the trailer was hard. getting him out was good. But...my brother has decided he wants to train him. He has done things with horses before, but not as much as I have. He is 15. He has no fear. Gets bucked off and laughs about it. So, he could do it but what I am asking is what is a list of things for him to do and in what order? I mean things he needs to do before doing something else or riding, so what order do you do things with a only halter broke horse? Sorry if that is confusing! Thanks in advance!
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post #35 of 41 Old 04-26-2015, 08:08 PM
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I never said he could train him. I don't want him to train him for that reason. Please don't get mad at me for things I didn't say. :(

Anyway...things were going good until Joker had his farrier visit. He was a pain! Cut open the farriers hand!! Luckily, our farrier is awesome. He knows a ton about horses and was able to finally get him to stop rearing and everything long enough to do his front feet and the minimum on his back. He flat out told my brother, "This horse is a bonehead and used to getting what he wants. He's going to be dangerous, but if you can get that boneheadedness working on your side, this is going to be an awesome horse."

now that's just the kind of horse I'd like to see my son up and riding! aren't your parents a bit worried?
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post #36 of 41 Old 04-26-2015, 08:51 PM
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Personally that horse'd be a dead horse on my property if he didn't turn his act around in two licks. That's the most dangerous type of horse and one that I was told to either: "Train it or kill it".

I agree though, after this escaped your parents are still OK with their son climbing on this horse?! I know my parents still have half a mind to tann my hide when I climb on these horses and I'm experienced and an adult legally! I'm really confused as to how this is seen as okay?

That being said I will say not ever deadhead turns out to be a great horse. I had one that tried to kill me on a consistent basis for four years. I still won't go anywhere near that animal. He got green broke eventually, but he still flips over backwards in a tantrum and kicks out at you if you walk around him.
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post #37 of 41 Old 04-27-2015, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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My parents weren't out with the farrier and they believe he can do it. Of course...when my brother told them that story, he buttered it up and made it sound like the farrier said he was going to be an awesome horse and that's it. :/
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post #38 of 41 Old 04-27-2015, 11:22 AM
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No one here wants to see your brother seriously injured or the horse ruined, but your brother is a thick headed determined boy like many of us guys were, and if he has made up his mind to do this there is nothing you can do. Telling him he can't will only make him more determined and prove that he can. I would just tell him that if he is going to do it that you hope he does it the right way and maybe suggest some training videos he can watch then stay completely out of it. Same with your parents, if they are not concerned (as they should be) just don't say any more about it.
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post #39 of 41 Old 04-27-2015, 11:27 AM
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This all makes my head hurt.
Do your parents pay any attention at all to what goes on with the horses on your place or have they checked out and just don't want to be bothered?

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post #40 of 41 Old 04-27-2015, 12:11 PM
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No one here has been able to tell you what to do with horses; what makes you think anything we offer will help you tell your brother what to do with horses?

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