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post #11 of 33 Old 01-07-2015, 08:31 PM
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I'm a newbie that just started taking lessons almost 2 years ago. I have 3 horses and the last thing I would even think about is an untrained, unbroken stallion.

I don't know what your experience level is, but I have known people that said they have been riding for a very long time and didn't know how to properly sit on a horse. You may be a very good rider, but an untrained stallion is not a good thing as your 1st horse. You don't just want a trainer for your horse, you also need a trainer who is willing to teach you how to handle and work with your horse. I have seen some trainers that don't want to work with the owner other than a few rides before they take said horse home. But they're always willing to let you bring them back for a refresher. Putting more money in their pocket won't ease the pain on you butt every time you fall. The way you ride and the cues that you use may be totally different than what the trainer taught the horse. If not done correctly, you can totally undo any training that has been done. In my opinion, 30-60 days worth of training does nothing to prepare a 1st time horse owner for handling a green horse that will challenge you every chance that he gets.

You're probably a much better rider than I am, but that don't prepare you for working with a very green stallion. I have saw some beautiful horses that I said I would love to own, but I know my limitations. I have fallen off a well trained been there done that horse. There is no way I would trust myself trying to get on a untrained much too green stallion. I would run the other way. If they're beautiful horses, there's nothing wrong with admiring them from afar.
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post #12 of 33 Old 01-07-2015, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Elleanore View Post
Although I wish I could ride them - the problem I'm having is they are both green, unbroken stallions! They are both 4 and from a stud. They both have siblings and parents with very good riding temperaments, so I'm not too concerned about the in-saddle aspect. After the horse has settled in he will be sent to a local (mostly baroque) trainer who the stud owner, and many other people, have recommended to me. Everyone has said the horses come back as they left and with a very soft mouth.
I'll definitely need to spend some time grooming and getting to know the horses and see which one I click with! I will also do a lot of investigating with how they react to certain things.
OK, now you're scaring me!!!

Please DO NOT buy either horse and run like hell from that breeder!

There will be nothing "pleasurable" for you about riding either of those horses (especially as a beginner).

You probably don't know enough to realize how bad this could turn out but I can assure you, you should be nervous - actually downright terrified.

If you want to get a suitable and compatible horse, go to a good riding school, take some lessons and have the coach assess you and then have the coach help you find a good horse that won't kill you. PLEASE!
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post #13 of 33 Old 01-07-2015, 10:26 PM
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Immediately cross these horses off your list, run as far away as possible from that breeder, and find yourself a broke, well trained gelding or mare.
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post #14 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 02:05 AM Thread Starter
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Hi guys so sorry to freak you out!!
I meant newbie to the forum... I have been riding for 12 years on plenty of different horses, old, new, well behaved and badly behaved! Both horses have been lunged, had bits in their mouths, have had saddle training just without the weight of a person so they are ready to start saddle training once they settle.
I have a trainer ready to work with the horse, then me with the horse.
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post #15 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
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Oh - and they got gelded the other day :)
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post #16 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 03:17 AM
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Think about what your goals are, then pick your horse accordingly. From what you say, you would be mostly interested in pleasure riding rather than competing at a specific discipline. Why would you want to take a chance at a horse bred for competing in dressage that you need to put a lot of money and training into before you can ride it? The market for horses like that should mostly be very experienced dressage riders who are looking to buy a young talent to bring along. In the worst case scenario, you put all that training into the horse and then realize afterwards that he is not at all suited to what you want to do...
Not to mention that if you are mostly looking for personality, gelding can change a stallion's personality very much.

Assess your needs honestly and go from there. What do you want to do with the horse now? Where would you like to be with your riding in 5 years? What's important to you when it comes to personality, training and talent? There's no shame in saying you are not interested or ready to compete and just want a nice companion for pleasure riding.
You found a trainer that comes highly recommended - meet him, make sure you are on the same wavelength. Maybe take a few lessons from him, and have him assess your riding skills honestly and independent of anyone trying to sell you a horse.
If you like him and you two agree that you want to work together, bring him along or consult with him when you meet potential candidates.
Don't let yourself get talked into buying anything hastily. Horses are very much a buyer's market. There are many, many good horses for sale out there, so take your time and make sure you find one that you can enjoy.
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post #17 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 03:30 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much for all the information; it was very helpful. Once upon a time I was interested in some disciplines but not anymore. The horses were bred to be good all rounders, not just for dressage - it just so happens their siblings excel in that discipline. I've found a horse that has been gelded, lightly trained and is 8 years old by the same breeder so I think I might take some advice and go for an older horse. He isn't broken because she stopped breeding the thoroughbreds and was going to keep him for a breeding horse. Although I've never owned a horse, I'm looking forward to learning together and the trainer knows the horses.
The breeder didn't seek me out, I contacted her after looking at horses for a while.
I'll keep you guys posted - I'm visiting the horses on the 23rd :) I won't make any decisions in not ready to make!
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post #18 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 07:29 AM
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If you're not interested in disciplines, can I ask you what has drawn you to these horses in particular? It could potentially be a lot of money/work to get them ready for pleasure riding... :/ Why not look at some broke horses?
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post #19 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 08:04 AM
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I know you didn't ask for advice like this...but I would really caution you to maybe consider this a bit more.

I know you have experience with a range of horses and years behind you. But owning a horse can be different, its a level of responsibility and emotional connection that is new and at times hard. Even with years of experience its a learning curve. There is always time to get young horses later on. Play it safe with a first horse. Don't get something you can't even test ride. There will be plenty of six year olds out there that are broken and have some experience but are still full of challenges.
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post #20 of 33 Old 01-08-2015, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Elleanore View Post
Although I wish I could ride them - the problem I'm having is they are both green, unbroken stallions!
Aiii! That would be a problem for me, too!

"Run Away! Run Away!!!" (Monty Python ;-)

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