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post #1 of 34 Old 08-14-2017, 10:37 AM Thread Starter
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I have a 5 year old mare COB 14:2. She is very placid and is obese. I have had her 2 weeks. I would just like some advice. I paid £3500 for her, i have been told she has an over reach. I have bought her 2 different types of over reach boots and it doesn't stop her kicking her front left shoe off. Her over reach is the back right foot hitting the front left and kicking the shoe off. She's kicked it off 3 times since I've had her. I have asked if it is an over reach or forging and they are adamant its an over reach, i asked when her hooves last got done and apparently they got done the day i got her when her shoes got put on (i thought her hooves may be unbalanced). I don't want to get rid of her i just want to know if she was worth the £3500 as we have bought another and he was no where near that price. I would also like to know if i can fix an over reach? Also since we've had her the old owners (they see her everyday still) have noticed 5 splints on her and say they will be because she has thrown her shoe off 3 times. I'm very confused how suddenly these things are cropping up, i don't know what to believe. This is our first horse and because it was a 'friend' we thought this was a good buy. We had no idea what to look for so have no idea if the splints were there before. Do the splints devalue a horse because they are wanting to buy her but say now she has 5 splints the horse isn't even worth £100. Can a splint be caused by throwing shoe? They are not getting her at all, i'm just confused being a new horse owner/rider. HELLPPPP
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post #2 of 34 Old 08-14-2017, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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(when we first got her the 48 inch girth would only go in the first holes, it now goes into the 5th ones so she has lost alot of weight).
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post #3 of 34 Old 08-14-2017, 11:21 AM
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Splints can be caused if she is interfering further up the leg,hitting the splint bone, or my poor conformation.
The interfering can be caused by both conformation or un balanced shoing/trimming
Have a good farrier evaluate her movement, and often good trimming and shoing can help prevent inteference
As for what she is worth, a horse is worth exactly want someone is willing to pay for it,LOL. PPEs can help with the decision
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Get a vet out to look at her splints, and while they are at it give her a full exam to find out if there are any more surprises.

Get a different farrier out to address her overreach, to the extent possible. Ask him/her about the best kind of boot for it.

Your friends perhaps are not as much your friends as you think. Nor do they appear to be as informed as one would hope.

In future, when you buy a horse -- even from your best friend -- get a pre-purchase vet exam, also called a PPE. If everyone did that, a whole world of grief could be avoided.

ps: she's a pretty girl.

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post #5 of 34 Old 08-14-2017, 11:41 AM
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Splints aren't usually a problem unless the splint bone is actually broken or they're large enough to interfere with the tendons and ligaments but putting that many up in such a short time doesn't sound right
Its possible that they're a result of you riding her too hard when she's overweight and unfit - all that weight loss would possibly point to that too unless you're restricting her diet a lot
The over reaching could be caused by the same - too much fast work on an overweight unfit horse
In the photo she doesn't look particularly short backed which can cause an over reaching problem
She does look 'calf kneed/back at the knee' though and that can cause problems with the knee and tendons and if she isn't moving correctly in front she could be striking herself with her hind leg


I do think you should get the vet to look at those splints to see exactly what's happened - you might need to rest her if they're making her sore which I suspect they are.


You mention someone wanting to buy her - a vet isn't going to pass her as she is at present so that will reduce her value though I think unless she was a really good little horse, well broke, easy to ride etc then you paid too much for her and if she is back at the knee you paid a lot too much.


Do you know if she's really 5 or was that a guess put on a passport?
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Your overreach boots in the photo aren't fitting, so won't do any good.

Have a vet evaluate her splints, and visit with a farrier about the overreach issue-- it can often be minimized with correct trimming and shoeing. Her rear hooves are very short and clubbed off, and her fronts have a long toe. You need a new farrier, too.
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post #7 of 34 Old 08-14-2017, 12:44 PM
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To be honest 5 splints in 2 weeks is a bit rediculous. It's more than likely they were on her when you bought her and they knew as a novice that you wouldn't notice. Were they open to vetting or did they put you off it?

Did you mean they want to buy her back for £100? If so that would be £3400 profit for nothing, then sell her on to some other unsuspecting soul I suppose?
I suspect these folks aren't as friendly as they seem. Is she currently being stabled at their premises, if so I would move her asap. Tell them they can buy her back at £3500, as the splints were in her when they had her.

Looking at her she is not worth £3500. At least not in Ireland but I suppose riding horses are a little more expensive in mainland UK. However if she is riding quietly and doing everything you want then she is worth it, as you can certainly end up with a lot worse for less or even more money.

I wouldn't worry too much about the splints (5 seems extreme anyway) they might be exaggerating to get her back. Splits aren't always as scary as they sound at first, most give the horse no trouble at all.

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I'd love to see photos of her feet, without the boots, from the side (put the camera right down on the ground so you shoot on parallel with the feet, no downward angle).

Like @SilverMaple , I suspect that the way her feet are trimmed has some influence. She is very much back at the knee in front. So, those two things make her back feet break over faster than the front can break over and get out of the way of the back. trimming to slow down the back and speed up the front (longer back, shorter front) might help.
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Just wanted to say she's gorgeous! I don't know why we can't have "cobs" over here! I would totally drool over a horse like that. The closest I have ever gotten was a BLM Mustang that I think had a little draft in him. He was solid chestnut.

But anyway, a farrier should be able to fix the shoe pulling issue. It might take playing a little with the break over to find the way to get the fronts out of the way before the backs set down. Or shoeing the front a little close so there is less extra heel to grab and rip off. Or going barefoot? I don't know know if that is a possibility or not.

But anyway, she is so beautiful! I would love to have a horse with that build and color. Just not seen much in the USA unfortunately. I don't know what we have against big bones and feet.
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It looks like the farrier tried to correct over-reaching by shortening her back hooves....normally, interfereing front to rear is a result of the FRONT hooves being too long in the toe....causing a delay in the lift of the front hoof (breakover).

That is an adorable horse, I hope you get her sorted so you can enjoy her!!

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