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post #31 of 34 Old 08-15-2017, 11:32 AM
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Vet, chiropractor and farrier. It's worth the costs. Get this lovely girl fixed up and enjoy her.
I suspect she has had issues for some time aggravated by the ignorant former owners. I would have as little to do with them as possible.
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post #32 of 34 Old 08-15-2017, 02:49 PM
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These people are nothing but con artists. They saw you coming and knew that you were as green as grass and now want to take even more advantage of you.

First off, in my opinion you paid way to much for her.

If these people have had her since birth then they should have a passport with her, all horses bred in the U.K. have to have a microchip and a passport before the foal is 6 months old. This must be done by the vet.

Is this horse five or two? Big difference.

So, they now want to buy her back for 100, saying she is not worth more. A horse of her size is wotprth more than that going into the meat market so, they are lying.

So, what to do about it all?
Get the vet in do a soundness/healthcheck.
Call around big yards and ask who is the best farrier in the area and ask them to look. Do the same to,find the best equestrian ver.

Now, you do have a good 'hold' on these people over the passport. It is against the law for them to sell a horse without a passport and the moment the horsemwas handed over to you the passport should have been too.

When the vet comes get her scanned to see if she had a microchip if she doesn't then report them to DEFRA

A horse can throw a splint quite easily and as said, they do not usually cause problems once formed. However, they do not suddenly appear formed overnight and the horse will usually be lame whilst they are forming.

Splintsmare when the splint bone and the canon bone fuse together. Usually these occur when the horse is younger and has done hard work on a hard surface. (concussion)

All that you have said makes me feel that these so called friends are gypsies, the mare is their type and as they don't believe in following the rules, hence no paperwork.
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post #33 of 34 Old 08-15-2017, 02:55 PM
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Your 'friends' sound like anything but. Make sure you have your bill of sale, passport, and anything else needed to legally prove ownership, as they don't sound like they'd be above claiming she's legally theirs in their attempts to get her back. They sound like swinders who have tried this trick before, probably with the same mare.

One trick a local 'horseman' pulls around here is to sell a navicular barrel horse to someone, then once the horse is running at playdays every weekend and starts to get lame, he claims they caused it but buys the horse back for peanuts 'because he feels bad for them.' With a few weeks' rest, wedge shoes, and bute, the horse is sound again and then he'll put regular shoes on her and it's 'rinse and repeat.'. He's made thousands off this horse over the last few years. I see she's back out in his pasture again, so he's been successful yet again.

Another is to sell a really nice-looking big roan rope horse.... the secret? Ride that horse EVERY DAY and he's great. Give him more than a few days off and he'll be broncy as all get-out and you'd better be a cowboy to ride him. So he takes this nice horse to a few ropings, dropping that he's for sale. Someone new will buy him for big bucks, and ride him regularly and all is good. Then that person doesn't ride for awhile because, well, life happens or it rains for two weeks or what have you, and now they can't get on the horse. So the dealer would get him back again, start riding him daily, and kept it up for years. One local trainer caught on and traded the latest guy who'd been suckered a nice, quiet horse who was solid but wasn't going to win left and right in exchange for Old Roany, and he now has a horse he can win money on nearly every time, and he doesn't mind if the horse bucks after he's had some time off. I saw him on the horse at a roping last week and we both had a good laugh that the dealer had finally been rooked at his own game A variation of this are dealers who sell horses cheap in the fall, someone else will feed them through the winter, then when they start riding in the spring, realize that horse isn't nearly as broke as he seemed last fall when they were riding a lot. Dealer gets them back cheap to resell, and didn't have to pay for hay over the winter months.

There are also a couple of local families who use their horses as ATM machines-- when they need money, they sell one. When they get some money in, they buy him back. Key to this operation are horses of desirable colors that are easy sales either privately or at auction when they need money in a hurry -- roans, buckskins, grullas, grays, paints/pintos.

I think your little cob is adorable, and while I definitely am in the ranks who think you paid too much for her, if she's as sweet as she looks and will work out for you, then so be it. I think everyone who has had more than a horse or two has paid too much for one at one point or another so there's no shame in that. Get a good farrier to fix her feet and vet to evaluate her and run some bloodwork for your peace of mind (just to rule out a health condition for the weight loss) so you know what you're dealing with, tell the 'friends' to bug off, and enjoy her. I'd love to have one like her; I adore cob-type horses and they are few and far between around here.

If they're gypsies or she was originally purchased from one, she's done a lot of hard trotting on a road, hence the splints. Like others have said, splints generally do not crop up overnight, and when they do, they cause lameness until they calcify, then they're nothing more than a cosmetic issue.
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post #34 of 34 Old 08-15-2017, 03:08 PM
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we were told he is 2. From the owners friends of the other cob we have. He didnt come with a passport.
I missed this
So you now have two horses without passports?
Are the sellers of this one going to send his passport on to you?


You need to get this sorted out because now they're yours the lack of a passport is going to fall on you and could cause you a major headache.
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