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post #11 of 39 Old 12-11-2015, 03:22 PM
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What if the horses don't get along? Is there a place to get the horse ready? There are legal things to be aware of as far as keeping horses, boarding etc.

Who is going to GIVE the food and water?

Where will you store it?

Who is responsible? What if something goes wrong? Sick horse? Loose horse? Boarder leaves gate open? What if a horse needs to be separated?


Thanks for your response, things may be different here in Nebraska?

I could have each horse in its own pen, with a round bale feeder in the center, feeding all pens. Water would be from an automatic livestock waterer, that is also heated in the winter.

I would feed round bales my self, I have a large tractor with a loader set up to lift large round bales. 1500 lbs.

I planned on having a cattle guard at the gate in case someone forgot to close the gate.

I was thinking of keep it small, 5 to 10 horses so the owners could be checked out by me easily.
I like the idea of a pinwheel (different pens with water, food in middle.) You will need multiple sheds though.

No reason you couldn't have a group turnout but different options is always good.

Careful with automatic waterers, esp if this is "hands off" they really need to be checked and you need to be sure the horses are drinking.

Still not my personal preference but sounds more doable.

Cattle guard plus horses = dead horses.... please do NOT do this, and yes as said you obviously WANT to take the horses out some time.

There will always be some risk, a boarder could leave the gate open anywhere. I'm just concerned that no one was around.

I'm also concerned that you are throwing back ideas to my questions but say something like "cattle guard". Sounds like you are in the beginning stages of planning and just theorizing? I'm just worried that you think that would be a good idea, doesn't sound thought out (yet?)

natisa- They would need to know there was an emergency first!!

The barn I board at now is in a backyard and the owner and her husband may or may not be home, I don't expect them to stay home all day, but I at least know someone is around regularly and if they leave they will make sure the horses are all set first.

The barn I work at has 2 full time employees for 7 horses as well as a weekend employee. The owner used to live onsite but moved (she is elderly). When we leave the horses are tucked in and the barn is shut up. There is an alarm system wired directly to 911 for fires. This is on a main street.

A barn I looked into boarding at and liked was a coop setup. There were 7ish? stalls? Everyone was expected to take shifts am/pm to turn horses in and out and feed. The owner of the building was not into horses but lived directly above the barn and as such would know in an emergency.

My parents have the horses across the street from the house and are out there minimum 2x/day.

Now you don't need to worry about turnout obviously but they need to be checked. It's just too dangerous otherwise. They can do and will get into trouble, that's what they are best at!

You don't need to be there 24/7 that is unrealistic but I would expect someone to be "around" and personally that is a requirement for me. I know if the lady where I board was gone she would have someone (probably me lol) out minimum twice a day to check. Even if you won't be there "full time" that is really the minimum and like I said for a regular thing that wouldn't be enough for me, I would want the owner/manager living onsite.

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post #12 of 39 Old 12-11-2015, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
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Here is some more information:

The property right now has no fences, no corrals. I'm throwing this out there to horse owners for ideas.

What I really should have asked first is........what are you paying for horse boarding with no indoor shelter, and hay feed only?

If people are only paying $150 a month for that I have no interest.

Thanks

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post #13 of 39 Old 12-11-2015, 03:48 PM
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Depends on your area, really.

In northern Arizona, I pay $185/month for turnout board. My gelding is in a 1/4 acre turnout with two other geldings (not ideal, I know). They are fed three times per day, alfalfa or Bermuda hay or a mix of the two, whatever I want. They are having a run-in shed built before true winter hits (we hope). I'm grandfathered in. New boarders are paying $200/month for the same thing. My BO or her husband are on-property 24/7; there is a lovely large arena that is very well-maintained with jumps, barrels, and poles; two round pens; a round training arena; and a smaller arena that is usually set up as a trail course. There are trainers on-site and lessons offered. There are also miles upon MILES of state trust land right out the gate for trail riding.

For something like you're talking (minimal BO interaction with the horses, minimal facilities, etc), I would not expect to pay over $150/month.
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post #14 of 39 Old 12-11-2015, 03:55 PM
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Personally, I would not board my horses anywhere where there isn't a person living on-site. Others might, but I would not.

I've boarded at two private places ("private" meaning they were not boarding barns). One place I paid $125 a month for pasture board, and hay was fed in the winter AM and PM. They did not charge me anything extra for hay, but if I would have stayed another winter, they would have as it wasn't meeting their costs (and I understand completely). At the place I just left I paid $100 a month per horse for pasture board, and round bales were fed in the winter for an additional $60 per horse a month.

Of course, boarding prices are going to vary by area. I"m located in North Dakota and I"d stay that is pretty typical rates for pasture board.

Were you planning to feed hay year round? Or will the horses graze? Keep in mind, depending on your area, you may need MORE than 2 acres per horse for grazing. (If you were looking at poentially putting 10 horses on your 20 acres).

Also, one of the reasons I want someone checking on my horse AM and PM especially in the winter, is you have to make sure your water tank isn't frozen up. It can lead to colic in a hurry, if horses don't have access to water in cold temps.

Keep in mind that most people or boarding barns don't MAKE MONEY off of boarding. You make money off of offering lessons, training, and the like.
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DrafyAiresmum and Beau159, thank you for the reply, that is the type of information I was looking for.


I would plan on feeding them hay year round.
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If you horse-fenced the twenty acres or close to that, and put up a big 3-sided shelter and a shed to store hay nearby, you could run ten horses in it. You'd need a round bale feeder and a really good waterer system, and someone to check everything once a day. Depending on what you charge, it would be fairly attractive to people who are looking for a lay-up or retirement situation.

You would still need a way for people to access their horses and get them in and out of course.
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Another thing to think of: If these boarders have horse trailers, are you going to allow them to park the horse trailers there?

Will there be electricity? How will they check on their horses in the dark (will there be lights)? Or if they need to (for example) plug in a clippers? Will there be outlets?

Will there be a hose of some sort when they need to wash a portion of their horse?

What are you going to do with manure? When they stand around a hay feeder, that builds up quickly.

You'll also need to check on INSURANCE and liability for boarding other people's horses on your property. What happens if someone gets hurts on your property? Your insurance company cares about that.

If a boarder has a horse that develops a special need, how will you deal with it?

If your hay costs go up, will you change your boarders rates or keep them the same?

Make sure you have a contract for each boarder, that spells everything out.
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You may be better off keeping only your horses there & having having a separate piece of the property for some sort of vehicle storage. People in cities pay a good price to store seasonal toys. Good use of the land without the hassle of some high maintenance, temperamental horses & their like owners.
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Here is some more information:

The property right now has no fences, no corrals. I'm throwing this out there to horse owners for ideas.

What I really should have asked first is........what are you paying for horse boarding with no indoor shelter, and hay feed only?

If people are only paying $150 a month for that I have no interest.

Thanks

Rob
Yeah just really skeptical on it but to answer the black and white question above, it really depends on area but around here where things are pricey I am paying $145 for stall with all day turnout and she feeds 2x/day for me. For what you describe above I would not pay more than $100. You basically are supplying a pen with a lean to and hay/water (which again for sake of the question I will assume it is given to the horse by you/an employee and they are checked minimum 2x/day). She also provides an outdoor riding ring, lives on property, and is a trainer and is available if needed and if I can't come out for a day she will clean my stall and do any "extras" and has refused payment for that.

Our "boarder" at home (long time boarder but more of a "hanger on" at this point :/) is supposed to pay $100/month and reimburse for all feed (grain and hay), in return we will feed and care for his horse along with ours. We have stalls available that we use as run outs and pasture, no ring but tons of trails (not that he rides). We also hold for vet/farrier and do any needed care (basically this guy shows up maybe once a month). His horse is rude and I put a lot of time into schooling him, though he has regressed since I left home. Think we should charge extra for my 65 year old mother holding a large rude TB who's trying to kill her and the farrier!

Rant aside.., I consider both of those extremely good deals for the area.

For $150 I would expect regular care to be provided for me and some sort of amenities...pasture, tack up area, etc, maybe even an outdoor ring.

Also, hay can be pretty darn expensive and hard to find. Something to keep in mind as it is not a "set" thing.
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I have draft crosses and they are kept together and not with the smaller horses, one mare is okay to be with smaller horse, the other two are bullies. They eat alfalfa in the 115 lb range and no way do they eat 3 or 3.5 bales a week.
Round bales can have good quality hay also the large square bales that 1000 lbs or more.
i would be concerned with : horses being stolen when no one is there. horses not being checked daily , colic and getting stuck in a fence, or injured from a fight. A water line could break , boarders taking other boarders items or messing with other peoples horses, no rest room for Boarders. I would not want a shared tack shed. Did it once, and never again .
One horse could be chased away from feed . Disease and sickness spread very easy through a herd environment.
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