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post #11 of 18 Old 09-12-2014, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
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I gentle bridle her and I know how to bridle as I have worked with horses before I am just new at the owning my own. Before I rode with friends or training facilities. It's not that I don't know how to bridle. I also when doing it do shove it in her mouth I know better than that. I usually put my thumb in side of her mouth till she opens and takes bit by her gums then she pops it in herself(opens teeth). I bridle how your suppose to. It's just that she acts so scared. And sorry I am no expert but the previous owners wouldn't even put their thumb on her side of mouth or lift the bridle up first they just walked up looked her in the eye, firmly said open, while moving the bit towards her mouth and she immediately opened her mouth. I am positive that's not how a horse should be trained to take a bit. I am gentle with taking it off and on cause she gets scared. Lately I been just putting the bridle without doing the bit just working with sliding bridle on and off and she is awesome doesn't mind. I talk to her and say good girl and stuff like that everytime. I been working with her more on the bit and yesterday it only took me 10 minutes to get her to take it, which is good for what it has been. I will be having her gums and ears checked though just because she is still touchy especially her ears. It just takes working together and time. Thanks for all the help. Anything helps!
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I'm the one who used fruit rollups. I'm only 5'1 1/2 (The half is important! LOL) and my horse was throwing its head around to avoid the bit. Some of my friends thought it was bribery, but I say if it works, use it! Eventually the horse would lower its head and wrap its lips around that bit whenever it was offered! So it may not have been wonderful horsemanship, but it solved a problem. It's hard for a horse to resist fruit.
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I gentle bridle her and I know how to bridle as I have worked with horses before I am just new at the owning my own. Before I rode with friends or training facilities. It's not that I don't know how to bridle. I also when doing it do shove it in her mouth I know better than that. I usually put my thumb in side of her mouth till she opens and takes bit by her gums then she pops it in herself(opens teeth). I bridle how your suppose to. It's just that she acts so scared. And sorry I am no expert but the previous owners wouldn't even put their thumb on her side of mouth or lift the bridle up first they just walked up looked her in the eye, firmly said open, while moving the bit towards her mouth and she immediately opened her mouth. I am positive that's not how a horse should be trained to take a bit. I am gentle with taking it off and on cause she gets scared. Lately I been just putting the bridle without doing the bit just working with sliding bridle on and off and she is awesome doesn't mind. I talk to her and say good girl and stuff like that everytime. I been working with her more on the bit and yesterday it only took me 10 minutes to get her to take it, which is good for what it has been. I will be having her gums and ears checked though just because she is still touchy especially her ears. It just takes working together and time. Thanks for all the help. Anything helps!
If this horse was scared into taking a bit and you are bridling correctly, it may just take some time for her to become accustomed to your gentler techniques. I try not to bribe horses to take a bit, but if you want her to take the bit more readily, you might give her a treat after she takes the bit. I did this with one mare. She now reaches for the bit quicker than any other horse I've seen.

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If a horse will open it's mouth on command, kudos to whoever trained it to do so. When you are bridling the horse be sure to use the flat of your hand to push the ears forward under the bridle. Don't allow the bridle to push them back. It is in this position that the ears are quite sensitive plus it's also the anger position. When you remove the bridle, slide it over the ears but hold it so there's a small amount of pressure in the mouth and wait for the horse to push the bit out. Horses are more tolerant of having their ears touched if you avoid using your fingers. A relaxation exercise I do is fold the hand in a V, place it over the back of the ear and using pressure, move from base to tip, 4 or 5 times. Often the horse will drop it's head as I stroke both ears out to the side.



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I'm the one who used fruit rollups. I'm only 5'1 1/2 (The half is important! LOL) and my horse was throwing its head around to avoid the bit. Some of my friends thought it was bribery, but I say if it works, use it! Eventually the horse would lower its head and wrap its lips around that bit whenever it was offered! So it may not have been wonderful horsemanship, but it solved a problem. It's hard for a horse to resist fruit.

Sure it was wonderful horsemanship!! You found a way to quickly get the horse to like what you needed to do. No yelling, no hitting, no pressure even. I think it's brilliant, and I'll bet your horse does too. That's GREAT horsemanship in my book.

Some people call it a bribe. I call it motivation. Semantics doesn't really matter, though, what does is that you get the job done and the horse does it willingly.
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Even if the horse has some bit-related trauma, that's not really an excuse. It doesn't matter why she behaved differently with her previous owners, all that matters is here and now with you.

Find a calm moment when you are in no hurry to ride. Put the bridle and the bit on her. Doesn't matter how much it takes, just try and be gentle about it. When she finally accepts the bit, praise her a lot, give her food treats if you use that, click if you use the clicker, make sure she understands that you are happy with her.

Then, remove the bridle and put it on again. If it takes another 20 minutes, that's ok. Put the bit on and off again and again, she'll relax sooner or later.

Repeat the lesson on different days until she is cool with you bridling her, and repeat it again if after some time of "good" bridling she shows reluctance again.

There's nothing wrong with using whatever bitless option you like, but I think that it's better if you are able to put the bit on her. Then you can use or not use it, but using a bitless because you can't put the bit on is just wrong; it's a wrong start for her and for you, because it means that she's training you to do what she wishes.

You should tell her that she's not having her way. Ok, being calm and gentle, without violence and all. But in the and it's going to be your way.
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It may be that you are dragging bridle through horse's eyes, may be you have it adjusted too small, may be, if you are using curb bit, that you have the curb strap/chain too tight. And may be handling ears roughly too when you bring it over them.

All of this can create problems.

And horse may not be nervous so much as you not knowing what you are really doing, is causing this.

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post #18 of 18 Old 09-14-2014, 01:47 PM
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Check her teeth. And horses' that are very nice like this, should be good in a hackamore, which could really help the horse and you. So try a hackamore. Or a bosal. My sisters' horse was really anxious and would toss her head when she rode her in a snaffle bit, my sister changed it to a hackamore, and the horse is doing great! This horse even used to run barrels in a hackamore. :)
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