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post #11 of 27 Old 11-26-2017, 01:40 PM
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PS - manure storage and collection is also a major concern. Where will you store & dispose of the waste from (potentially) 16 horses?
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I think AnitaAnne summed it up and laid it out well. That is not even a 5th of one acre. While it would be nice to have an area for them to walk about if they are trail riding each day then they wouldn't really need that. Having a nice stall for the time they are not riding would work.
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post #13 of 27 Old 11-26-2017, 02:05 PM
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You couldn't expect the renters to use shock collars. I bet most would be horrified. If the house has a fenced yard then that could work with a couple of kennels for those that keep theirs outside and you'd have to decide if you allow pets inside. In hotels you have to clean differently and spray for fleas if the room is a pet designated room. What are the laws for loose dogs on trails and what are the laws for stabling animals in that area?
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post #14 of 27 Old 11-27-2017, 07:05 AM Thread Starter
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You couldn't expect the renters to use shock collars. I bet most would be horrified. If the house has a fenced yard then that could work with a couple of kennels for those that keep theirs outside and you'd have to decide if you allow pets inside. In hotels you have to clean differently and spray for fleas if the room is a pet designated room. What are the laws for loose dogs on trails and what are the laws for stabling animals in that area?
Sorry, wasn't thinking of guests using shock collars, was using them as a comparison of electric fences and what attitudes were about them. The house has a doggy door now. Being a dog owner I understand that a well behaved dog is not an issue. Now unbehaved ones,,,. Loose dogs are not allowed in the county, but most do on the trials, with no issues. I was thinking of 2-4 horses max. Small house sleeping 4, but the small bunk house could be for the kids to "ruff it". Or could be for larger groups but then I would need to bring a porta john. Not sure it's worth that. The water issue concerns me as I can see a 3-500 dollar water bill if someone leaves the hose on. Previous owner tried to grow a lawn and was hitting $300 plus a month. Dumpster on site would take care of waste issues I believe. All of this is doable, for a price. I just do not know if someone would be willing to pay. I'm thinking 2-300 a night to make it work for me. By the time I pay utilities, insurance and taxes, plus my time to clean up and prep for next guest.
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post #15 of 27 Old 11-27-2017, 07:19 AM
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Less likely to be left on at the wash area but for watering the troughs you could have a separate bib and timer or use automatic waterers.
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post #16 of 27 Old 11-27-2017, 08:01 AM
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Before you do anything you need to check that the property is listed as a horse property with the county or city. A 75 X 100 lot is not a lot of room for a horse or horses and I would expect the property to be listed as residention, not agricultural.

If it is ok to do, then likely there'll be some permitting issues and code issues you need to resolve first.

If I was renting such a place for a vacation, I'd want some kind of shelter for the the horses (mare motel or loafing sheds), hot wire around the fencing to keep horses off would be ok. I'd like a list of local restaurants, grocery stores, vets, farriers and a trail map. I would want to know that the stock tanks and stalls or shelters were cleaned thoroughly and disinfected between each guest. You would need to require Coggins & Health Certs, and I'd want documentation of a horses Rhino vaccine within 60 days prior to arrival at the place. Rhino or EHV-1 is a thing that's spread through shared water very commonly.

The house(s) could be rustic, so long as they were IMMACULATE, white glove inspection clean. Hot tub would be nice, some kind of TV would be great, even a collection of things to put in the DVD or whatever. I'm pretty finicky, so wouldn't care about provided meals, I prefer to do my own, though it's a service you could offer if you wanted to. I have no idea about what you could charge, I'd check with local rental agencies and hotels and try to figure out something that would make your place more affordable or attractive to the guests.

Oh, almost forgot, you'll need liability insurance, releases of liability from each guest and signage around the property. https://www.mysafetysign.com/arizona...IaAnEAEALw_wcB
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I misread your comment about electric fence and shock collars. Many horse owners use electric to fence their animals or in the manner suggested as a top dress to keep animals off fence. I'd worry about number of horses in a small area with electric. They couldn't get away if run into it in a small square lot.That makes stalls more attractive.
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Thanks again for the replies. The area is zoned for horses and several neighbors have horses. The name of the subdivision is Spanish for "horse mesa". What I don't know is the zoning for what I am thinking of. What does it fall under? Motel/hotel, boarding etc. I am out of the town limits so I been told I don't have to pay a bed tax. I need to get a quote from my insurance company. Property is still in probate. I am looking at options now so when I take procession I can get started. I'll need to start making some cash flow soon. I did not know how much it cost to inherit something!
I have done a lot of com/res rentals so the basics I understand. B and B's are new to me and what I am thinking is kinda out there. I can just rent the property and clear about 800 a month, so that is my base I am starting at. The extra work of a b and b means I should double that. Basing usage against cost, gets me at 2-300 a day. Sounds like a lot to me. Fine line between charging too much and charging enough that I can deliver top quality service.
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Electric fencing is great, used for horses that are used to it, have been introduced to it, in a larger area.
It is a disaster waiting to happen, in a small area, with strange horses, some never exposed to it.
Manure hauled away just in dumpsters???
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Electric fencing is great, used for horses that are used to it, have been introduced to it, in a larger area.
It is a disaster waiting to happen, in a small area, with strange horses, some never exposed to it.
Manure hauled away just in dumpsters???
When I lived in Tucson I had a big roll off dumpster for my manure, had it hauled away monthly for about $400/trip. They'd drop an empty one and haul off the full one.
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