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post #21 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 08:10 AM
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Did you mix any wood chips or anything like that into the manure in the dumpsters? Lime? Seems like it would start to liquify and attract flies otherwise.
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post #22 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 10:11 AM Thread Starter
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Did you mix any wood chips or anything like that into the manure in the dumpsters? Lime? Seems like it would start to liquify and attract flies otherwise.
The neighbors that use a dumpster don't add anything. Gets dumped weekly. I do think I found my answer. Yesterday I got the water bill for the last 2 months on this property. The owner was watering a few plants and a bit of lawn. Keep in mind it was a 75 by 100 foot lot with a house, concrete driveway and storage sheds. 1/2 of what was left was decomposed granite. For 2 months the water bill is over 600 dollars! 611.43 to be exact. I think I would be better to offer free beer than water.
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post #23 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 10:25 AM
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Did you mix any wood chips or anything like that into the manure in the dumpsters? Lime? Seems like it would start to liquify and attract flies otherwise.
Not out in the desert. One of the things I noticed when I moved from AZ to OK was that it was a lot harder to clean stalls. Everything is heavier and pee spots don't dry out here. In AZ the poo dries out and turns to powder and pee spots that are open to the sun dry up quickly.

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post #24 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 10:30 AM
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. For 2 months the water bill is over 600 dollars! 611.43 to be exact. I think I would be better to offer free beer than water.
Keep that in perspective. Here in OK where water is normally fairly plentiful, my water bills are less than $100 mo about 8 mos of the year and between $100-$150 the hottest part of the year. I don't water my pastures, my lawn or anything else, it's not really necessary. That's just water for humans, chickens & horses. If you're going to water plants out in the desert, especially grass which is a notorious water suck, you're going to pay a LOT for the privilege. We used to say having grass was evidence that the owner had more money than sense. If you are charging $200-300 PER DAY, 2 days of rentals for ONE MONTH would have paid that water bill. So, even if the water bill goes up, you would cover it and then some.

You can't charge extra to water horses, horse people won't stand for that. Leaving my horses short water is a sure fire way to get fired around here and that's one bill that will always get paid first.
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post #25 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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Keep that in perspective. Here in OK where water is normally fairly plentiful, my water bills are less than $100 mo about 8 mos of the year and between $100-$150 the hottest part of the year. I don't water my pastures, my lawn or anything else, it's not really necessary. That's just water for humans, chickens & horses. If you're going to water plants out in the desert, especially grass which is a notorious water suck, you're going to pay a LOT for the privilege. We used to say having grass was evidence that the owner had more money than sense. If you are charging $200-300 PER DAY, 2 days of rentals for ONE MONTH would have paid that water bill. So, even if the water bill goes up, you would cover it and then some.

You can't charge extra to water horses, horse people won't stand for that. Leaving my horses short water is a sure fire way to get fired around here and that's one bill that will always get paid first.
Where I am coming from is using this as income property. Yearly lease will yield me about 800 a month profit after taxes, insurance, sewer, etc. So as a B and B I know I will have more time involved, which is fine if it pays off. But out of a 30 day period can I keep it rented 15? I have doubts, maybe 10, as mostly weekends. So 2,000 to 3,000 income. But for a B and B I pay utilities also, so 6-800 a month. Water, elec, tv and or internet, trash. Plus cleaning, upkeep. I am not sure I will make enough to be worth it. Add down time in the winter averaged out for the year. The water bill being a wild card is a concern. It could vary several hundred a month. And your right, the animals get however much they need, it needs to be built in to the rates. I just can't see someone doing 300 a day for what I can offer, as far as horses as concerned. The replies here helped a lot to let me know what horses need, corrals, clean water, medical records, etc. Thanks everyone again, it was a help it guiding me!
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post #26 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 08:53 PM
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Where I am coming from is using this as income property. Yearly lease will yield me about 800 a month profit after taxes, insurance, sewer, etc. So as a B and B I know I will have more time involved, which is fine if it pays off. But out of a 30 day period can I keep it rented 15? I have doubts, maybe 10, as mostly weekends. So 2,000 to 3,000 income. But for a B and B I pay utilities also, so 6-800 a month. Water, elec, tv and or internet, trash. Plus cleaning, upkeep. I am not sure I will make enough to be worth it. Add down time in the winter averaged out for the year. The water bill being a wild card is a concern. It could vary several hundred a month. And your right, the animals get however much they need, it needs to be built in to the rates. I just can't see someone doing 300 a day for what I can offer, as far as horses as concerned. The replies here helped a lot to let me know what horses need, corrals, clean water, medical records, etc. Thanks everyone again, it was a help it guiding me!
It depends on what they want. Do they want to stay in a luxury suite at the local Radisson? Or are they more Motel 6 kind of folks? Even Motel 6 can get a little pricey, and they they have to find a Horse Motel for the horses, and then is it convenient to the trails they want? And don't forget food for the day. Restaurant meals can easily be over $50 for 2 people/meal. I looked at accomodations in and around Payson and there are B&Bs for 200-250 a night and they don't cater to horses.
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post #27 of 27 Old 11-28-2017, 11:24 PM
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Where I am coming from is using this as income property.
Another thing to consider is wear and tear on the property. While you of course have the risk that normal renters could trash your place, it seems like the chances of problems would increase the more people you have in and out. Horses can also be very destructive, be that accidental or due to incompetence on the part of the owners. Making a profit on most things dealing with horses is not easy.


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